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Re:Electron considered harmful by ld00d on Thursday November 24, 2016 @12:17PM (#13031390)
What's wrong with JavaFX? I don't ever see it recommended, but a lot of us can do Java, and from my experience, it's way better than swing or awt.
Re:Electron considered harmful by niftich on Thursday November 24, 2016 @12:29PM (#13031472)
JavaFX is fairly decent, and I agree that it's more pleasant than Swing or AWT. It's a fairly good choice for places where you can mandate or ensure that Java will be present on the client (e.g. internal line-of-business apps), but also in places where you don't need to have some ancient version to support some ancient application instead -- which cuts down on the pool a bit.

Unfortunately, most users know Java from years ago and never understood the difference between an applet or desktop application, and in the minds of some users it's still falsely stereotyped as slow or insecure.

In most shops I know, Java is being extensively used on the back-end, but almost no custom Java apps with GUIs. Most shops (and people) who could do Java on the frontend have gone to learn Mono or WinForms or WPF instead, which gives you results that feel nicer to most users.

Re:Electron considered harmful by antihero on Thursday November 24, 2016 @12:29PM (#13031474)
Purely out of interest, because I might have used one without even realising it, but could you link some desktop applications written in Java that haven't been sluggish as hell or a bit broken feeling?
Re:Electron considered harmful by pkd on Thursday November 24, 2016 @02:24PM (#13032221)
JEdit? Any IDE by IntelliJ? These are not JavaFX (its fairly new), but you asked for Java.
Re:Electron considered harmful by antihero on Thursday December 08, 2016 @05:47AM (#13129563)
IntelliJ is a good IDE, but it's UI is far from not-sluggish.
Re:Electron considered harmful by ld00d on Thursday November 24, 2016 @02:23PM (#13032215)
I don't know. I did a cursory google search and came up mostly empty-handed. LoadUI is supposedly JavaFX. It's such an outlier for UI/UX though.
Re:Electron considered harmful by TeMPOraL on Thursday November 24, 2016 @12:22PM (#13031419)
I'd say nothing. If you're working on JVM, it's the best choice.
Re:Electron considered harmful by baby on Thursday November 24, 2016 @12:32PM (#13031496)
You need to write it in Java? Which is the considered one of the worst language of the new generation.
Re:Electron considered harmful by rootlocus on Thursday November 24, 2016 @04:23PM (#13032849)
I write Java, and I enjoy it.
Re:Electron considered harmful by baby on Friday November 25, 2016 @01:18PM (#13038748)
I'm sorry to hear that :)