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Re:Reddit CEO admits to altering user comments that were cri... by rjbwork on Wednesday November 23, 2016 @08:36PM (#13027287)
Please, tell me more about this wonderful futuristic technology.
Re:Reddit CEO admits to altering user comments that were cri... by qwertyuiop924 on Wednesday November 23, 2016 @08:46PM (#13027337)
Well, you see, there used to be a network coexistant with the internet, backed by UUCP, because Unix didn't have internet support yet (among other reasons).

And then there were these guys called Tom and Steve. And they wrote Usenet. And all was well until September fell. And then the usenet gradually faded into obscurity, as users moved towards walled gardens, and away from netnews. Some of these users were weeaboos: This is how the -chans made their way here from Japan.

Re:Reddit CEO admits to altering user comments that were cri... by ChuckMcM on Wednesday November 23, 2016 @08:55PM (#13027394)
Awesome! that totally reads like a future history of post apocalyptic script kiddy explaining the current state of the world.

Usenet was created because "networks" were expensive and "fax lines" were cheap. If you did it correctly machine A could call machine B in its local calling zone which could call machine C in its local calling zone and a message could go from A!B!C!user without incurring any long distance charges (aka "free").

Because you would lose your news feed if you pissed people off, spam was low because no admin would tolerate one of their users putting their system at risk of disconnection.

When networks because "free" and anyone could talk to anyone, there was no impediment to spam and no way to scale, and much of the infrastructure collapsed on itself.

That said, there is absolutely nothing preventing anyone from creating their own peer to peer messaging network. They could re-use the netnews code or write their own with a bit more security built in. The argument to that is "but hey no one will use it." to which you say "Who cares? My friends and I will use it." and since it is free and it is just you and your friends it will be fun and enjoyable. And if you're very unlucky everyone will join you.

Re:Reddit CEO admits to altering user comments that were cri... by qwertyuiop924 on Wednesday November 23, 2016 @09:05PM (#13027448)
It reads like that in part because I was aiming for that vibe (something along the lines of http://www.cs.ucsb.edu/~ravenben/humor/historyofnet, or https://www.astro.umd.edu/~avondale/extra/Humor/ComputerHumo...). But also because my knowledge of Usenet history is very limited. So thanks for the crash course.
Re:Reddit CEO admits to altering user comments that were cri... by StavrosK on Wednesday November 23, 2016 @10:26PM (#13027781)
> And if you're very unlucky everyone will join you.

That last line was very poignant.

Re:Reddit CEO admits to altering user comments that were cri... by qwertyuiop924 on Thursday November 24, 2016 @04:59AM (#13029418)
But true.

I sure as heck hope that everyone doesn't join me in my communities: the magic would go away.

Re:Reddit CEO admits to altering user comments that were cri... by Jaruzel on Thursday November 24, 2016 @06:05AM (#13029692)
> And all was well until September fell.

Oh, how I pine for the days before the eternal September.

Even Green Day got sad about it.

Re:Reddit CEO admits to altering user comments that were cri... by qwertyuiop924 on Thursday November 24, 2016 @11:13AM (#13031016)
Some sites try to pretend that it didn't happen. If they're small enough, it can even kind of work, like lainchan.

>Even Green Day got sad about it.

When I heard that song, I noticed how well the lyrics fit:

>Summer has come and passed, the innocence can never last,

The eternal September was the end of innocence for the internet

>Here comes the rain again, falling from the stars,

>Drenched in my pain again, becoming who we are

As painful as September was was, it was instrumental in making the internet and the internet culture what it is today.

>As my memory rests, but never forget what I lost

Many still feel the loss that was September distinctly. I myself wasn't even around, but I still feel it.

Re:Reddit CEO admits to altering user comments that were cri... by sonofgod on Wednesday November 23, 2016 @10:38PM (#13027827)
If you're wanting to explore the history of messaging, olduse.net has a 30-year delayed live newsfeed...

Mostly I learnt that just about nothing has changed...

Re:Reddit CEO admits to altering user comments that were cri... by protomyth on Thursday November 24, 2016 @12:35AM (#13028410)
As a nice supplement the Conference issue of Byte is on the Internet Archive. The issue has a painting of a ribbon cable on the cover.
Re:Reddit CEO admits to altering user comments that were cri... by protomyth on Thursday November 24, 2016 @11:01AM (#13030938)
Since I'm off the road here is the link https://archive.org/details/byte-magazine-1985-12

Byte Magazine Volume 10 Number 13 December 1985 Computer Conferencing

Re:Reddit CEO admits to altering user comments that were cri... by qwertyuiop924 on Thursday November 24, 2016 @11:15AM (#13031031)
Ah, Byte. There's nothing like it, and there probably never will be. Where else could you find circuit diagrams, assembly listings, and explorations of HLLs, next to all kinds other computer-related explorations?

It has a kind of magic to it, which I can't find in any other magazine to this day.

Re:Reddit CEO admits to altering user comments that were cri... by ddingus on Thursday November 24, 2016 @05:13PM (#13033098)
Seconded.