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Re:Bruce Schneier: 'The Internet Era of Fun and Games Is Over' by phantom_oracle on Wednesday November 23, 2016 @08:24PM (#13027202)
I think I live in a bubble...

But...

Who buys these products? Why does a toaster need to be connected to the internet and synced with your "smart"phone? What exactly can you achieve having this feature?

Re:Bruce Schneier: 'The Internet Era of Fun and Games Is Over' by imaginology on Wednesday November 23, 2016 @08:43PM (#13027321)
Not sure about a toster, but there are benefits to having some household appliances connected to the internet. For example, a washing machine may be able to determine what hour it should operate for maximum energy savings, and ping you when finished. I guess a toaster could be similar; pre-loaded with bread so you could ask it to start toasting before getting up from the sofa.

> Consumers may find it totally cool to design images for toast using a smartphone. Meantime, the resulting data would help food companies understand how people approach breakfast, design new products and market to consumers more effectively.

http://blog.rackspace.com/internet-of-things-why-connected-t...

Re:Bruce Schneier: 'The Internet Era of Fun and Games Is Over' by rglover on Wednesday November 23, 2016 @09:37PM (#13027578)
> [...] pre-loaded with bread so you could ask it to start toasting before getting up from the sofa.

But how did the bread get in the toaster?!

Re:Bruce Schneier: 'The Internet Era of Fun and Games Is Over' by tdkl on Thursday November 24, 2016 @06:35AM (#13029790)
Not really. Those benefits that are marketed are mostly just enablers for laziness, but not actually solving anything. It caters to the self repeating lie of "saving precious time" but actually harms responsibility and security at scale.
Re:Bruce Schneier: 'The Internet Era of Fun and Games Is Over' by nathan_f77 on Thursday November 24, 2016 @05:00AM (#13029421)
Regular toasters are just a funny example (reductio ad absurdum), although I did find a toaster that can print pictures on your toast [1].

An internet connected fridge could be really useful if it integrates with grocery lists, recipes, expiry dates, automatic deliveries, etc. These fridges are still in their infancy, but we're moving towards a fully automated kitchen. I've seen a lot of fridges that run Android, and people like to make fun of them because "Why would you need Twitter or YouTube on a fridge?". Those are just apps that you can install on anything, and it didn't take any additional effort. It's weird when it becomes part of their marketing, though.

Anyway, this is the future we are heading towards: http://www.moley.com/ I believe the technology is already here, and it's just a matter of lowering the cost and improving the software.

[1] https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/258723592/toasteroid-fi...

Re:Bruce Schneier: 'The Internet Era of Fun and Games Is Over' by jpindar on Thursday November 24, 2016 @08:19AM (#13030168)
The vast majority of IoT devices are purchased by manufacturers, utility companies, government agencies, health care facilities, airports, etc. etc.

If you think that any significant fraction of IoT devices are located in homes and controlled by phones, you do indeed live in a bubble. (Don't feel bad, so do lots of HN posters).

Re:Bruce Schneier: 'The Internet Era of Fun and Games Is Over' by woofyman on Wednesday November 23, 2016 @09:00PM (#13027421)
>Thanks to the Internet of Things, the ability to collect massive amounts of data and use it in new and profoundly different ways also enters the picture.

http://blog.rackspace.com/internet-of-things-why-connected-t...

No thank you very much.

Re:Bruce Schneier: 'The Internet Era of Fun and Games Is Over' by greggman on Thursday November 24, 2016 @03:57AM (#13029146)
Can you buy a TV that isn't internet connected now-a-days? AFAICT they are very few and far between :(
Re:Bruce Schneier: 'The Internet Era of Fun and Games Is Over' by mnw21cam on Thursday November 24, 2016 @06:49AM (#13029835)
You can buy a TV, and then not connect it to the internet.