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Re:How Physics Falls Apart If the EMdrive Works by api on Wednesday November 23, 2016 @12:44PM (#13024232)
Wow... what a particularly bad article.

The Emdrive is an experiment that has so far provided an anomalous result. If that result holds up to replication and deeper investigation, only then will we proceed to the theory stage.

There is presently no theory to explain this result, but there are many speculations and hypotheses. Only the most extreme of these invoke a true violation of conservation laws, and these as a result would be considered last after others had been ruled out.

Less extreme hypotheses include interaction with dark matter or some other normally invisible or weakly interacting medium, unknown physics surrounding gravity or magnetic fields, etc.

Personally my favorite is dark matter. Could this be a weakly interacting particle thruster? Perhaps it is somehow accelerating ubiquitous but weakly interacting particles, essentially using dark matter as a propulsive medium.

That could have massive practical implications and would also lead to new physics, but would not violate conservation laws since momentum is being transferred.

A craft powered by such a thruster would have a "jet wash," just one that is harmless and largely undetectable through normal means. It might also only work in the vicinity of massive objects or in other places where a sufficiently rich concentration of propellant is found. Planets and stars have been hypothesized as being surrounded by dark matter clouds, but e.g. it may not work well in interstellar space.

Of course it would only be useful for propulsion if it could be made efficient.

Re:How Physics Falls Apart If the EMdrive Works by madaxe_again on Wednesday November 23, 2016 @01:11PM (#13024469)
See the NASA paper - they have a hypothesis, which is that they're essentially pushing against the quantum background with pilot waves - which doesn't really violate anything but does mean we took a wrong turn on QM 80 years back.
Re:How Physics Falls Apart If the EMdrive Works by api on Wednesday November 23, 2016 @01:50PM (#13024794)
Where does the momentum go when the virtual particles re-annihilate?

Even if it is pushing against QM background I suspect that could only be part of the story. There has to be an "and then" unless we want to toss a conservation law.

Many physicists think there is likely dark matter and that it is actual matter with mass, so I've repeatedly seen that thrown out as a potential answer for where momentum might be going eventually. Maybe messing with the QM background is how that happens... somehow. Maybe weakly interacting dark matter particles interact with the microwave background or something.

Re:How Physics Falls Apart If the EMdrive Works by madaxe_again on Wednesday November 23, 2016 @02:41PM (#13025228)
Maybe the quantum background ends up with the momentum. Honestly, don't have a better hypothesis, but if we're to accept pilot waves we end up back at luminiferous aether, so it's anyone's guess.

I still reckon there's an experimental error somewhere - but if there isn't, it's undeniably a big deal.

Re:How Physics Falls Apart If the EMdrive Works by Can_Not on Thursday November 24, 2016 @07:54PM (#13033763)
I doubt anyone is suggesting the momentum is actually gone (in terms of violating laws). But indeed, where is it going? Perhaps in less than 100 years we discover that is the cause of a new type of pollution.
Re:How Physics Falls Apart If the EMdrive Works by kordless on Wednesday November 23, 2016 @01:31PM (#13024654)
Here's a detailed hypothesis by a team out of Finland: http://scitation.aip.org/content/aip/journal/adva/6/6/10.106...
Re:How Physics Falls Apart If the EMdrive Works by beevai142 on Wednesday November 23, 2016 @02:27PM (#13025078)
... and both of them are pretty much word salad rather than serious attempts.
Re:How Physics Falls Apart If the EMdrive Works by mrob on Wednesday November 23, 2016 @02:03PM (#13024895)
The dark matter hypothesis has already been discussed here, and raattgift posted a good explanation for why it is very unlikely:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13003811