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Re:2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats by abakker on Tuesday November 22, 2016 @12:51PM (#13015881)
3 sounds like a doozy. Is there any way that the average person can learn to tell these apart once they are out of the packaging, or is it really just a guess and check?
Re:2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats by lvh on Tuesday November 22, 2016 @12:54PM (#13015916)
My understanding is that Thunderbolt 3 cables should have the Thunderbolt logo on them.
Re:2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats by qyv on Tuesday November 22, 2016 @03:23PM (#13017321)
And herein lies the rub of USB-C: It isn't a universal logical interface, it is a multi-use physical connector. By overloading the port's logical functions you introduce incompatible physical configurations.
Re:2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats by eridius on Tuesday November 22, 2016 @04:16PM (#13017727)
There have always been charge-only USB cables, they're just not all that common (I believe many mice come with those for charging, but I don't know where else you'd get one). I agree that it is a problem for Apple to be shipping a charge-only USB-C cable, both because this significantly increases the number of charge-only cables in the wild, and because this is probably the first USB-C cable that their customers will have and it's confusing if it doesn't actually act as a generic USB-C cable.
Re:2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats by falcolas on Tuesday November 22, 2016 @04:45PM (#13017946)
FWIW, the only time I've seen charge-only USB cables is when they are permanently attached to a charging brick.
Re:2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats by eridius on Tuesday November 22, 2016 @06:27PM (#13018598)
I'm pretty sure I have a charge-only Mini USB cable lying around in a drawer somewhere that came with an old mouse years ago.
Re:2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats by timdierks on Tuesday November 22, 2016 @08:06PM (#13019096)
Charge-only Mini USB connectors are a different question. They're possible to build, but non-compliant. Charge-only USB C cables are part of the standard. The difference is that you can only blame cable confusion problems on the standard in the latter case.
Re:2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats by otterley on Tuesday November 22, 2016 @02:07PM (#13016586)
It's not a Thunderbolt issue. It's about supporting "DisplayPort Alternate Mode." This particular monitor doesn't support Thunderbolt.
Re:2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats by hyperbovine on Tuesday November 22, 2016 @02:21PM (#13016712)
Steve would be pissed.
Re:2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats by andrewpe on Tuesday November 22, 2016 @04:08PM (#13017676)
The cables or ends should almost be colored blue. It might help if there was a color code to all the cables and ports
Re:2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats by FireBeyond on Tuesday November 22, 2016 @06:15PM (#13018529)
Kinda like how Apple's USB3 ports are not colored blue, for aesthetics... ?
Re:2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats by benguild on Tuesday November 22, 2016 @09:35PM (#13019509)
2 and 3 are both doozies. #2 makes that setup basically unusable.