Re:Keyframes: Delivering scalable, high-quality animations t...
by echelon on Tuesday November 22, 2016 @12:08PM
(#13015514)
I'm not misreading it. The license says we cannot fork the software. That's not open source.
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Re:Keyframes: Delivering scalable, high-quality animations t...
by andybak on Tuesday November 22, 2016 @12:36PM
(#13015723)
They had better start paying their lawyers overtime. You can't do a PR without forking and people fork on Github for a multitude of reasons (I often fork into a group as a lazy form of bookmarking or collecting projects).
Hell. I just clicked the 'fork' button. Where's my cease and desist?
Re:Keyframes: Delivering scalable, high-quality animations t...
by electic on Tuesday November 22, 2016 @12:59PM
(#13015952)
I would argue that GitHub should remove this software. It just runs counter with their TOS.
Re:Keyframes: Delivering scalable, high-quality animations t...
by st3v3r on Tuesday November 22, 2016 @02:33PM
(#13016827)
A PR isn't the only way to contribute. You can also check out the repo and send in patch files.
Re:Keyframes: Delivering scalable, high-quality animations t...
by tomjakubowski on Tuesday November 22, 2016 @04:34PM
(#13017881)
Just wondering: for lazy repo bookmarking, why fork rather than star?
Re:Keyframes: Delivering scalable, high-quality animations t...
by reubano on Wednesday November 23, 2016 @01:34AM
(#13020573)
For me, forks are like super stars. I have an order of magnitude more stars than forks.
Re:Keyframes: Delivering scalable, high-quality animations t...
by cosmotron on Tuesday November 22, 2016 @02:15PM
(#13016660)
Isn't a different interpretation that a fork is, presumably, their software _plus_ your modification(s)? Thus, a fork is not "solely" their software anymore and is allowed.
Re:Keyframes: Delivering scalable, high-quality animations t...
by bobwaycott on Tuesday November 22, 2016 @04:53PM
(#13018004)
The issue people are (rightly, imo) pointing out is that forking without modifications—say, to remain locked to a particular commit for whatever reasons one may have—appears to directly violate the terms of the custom license (which itself appears to directly violate the terms of Github's TOS.
Re:Keyframes: Delivering scalable, high-quality animations t...
by izym on Tuesday November 22, 2016 @03:31PM
(#13017392)
Yes, but forking on GitHub means that initially it will be just their software.
Re:Keyframes: Delivering scalable, high-quality animations t...
by lhorie on Tuesday November 22, 2016 @01:02PM
(#13015978)
If I understand right, you can fork it and even redistribute it, as long as your software isn't a blatant plagiarism of this repo. So technically, taking this library and putting it together with some other library yielding some meaningful application is enough to satisfy that clause.
Re:Keyframes: Delivering scalable, high-quality animations t...
by scarhill on Tuesday November 22, 2016 @01:34PM
(#13016276)
I read it as only allowing you to redistribute unmodified copies, because clause 3 only permits modification "for your own internal use."
Re:Keyframes: Delivering scalable, high-quality animations t...
by electic on Tuesday November 22, 2016 @03:14PM
(#13017239)
Also, even if were to improve on it and release it as a fork, as an example, it still falls into the definition of "software" and is in violation of the terms.
Re:Keyframes: Delivering scalable, high-quality animations t...
by CorpOverreach on Tuesday November 22, 2016 @12:34PM
(#13015704)
Do you have access to the source? Yes? It's open source.
Open Source need not be free as in beer, nor as in freedom.
Re:Keyframes: Delivering scalable, high-quality animations t...
by detaro on Tuesday November 22, 2016 @12:39PM
(#13015751)
No. Call that "source available", "source access" or something, but "Open Source" is pretty much established to be defined by the OSI definition of the term: https://opensource.org/osd
Re:Keyframes: Delivering scalable, high-quality animations t...
by idbehold on Tuesday November 22, 2016 @03:19PM
(#13017292)
The OSI should trademark the phrase "open source". License it for anyone claiming their software is open source (as defined by OSI), and send cease and desists to anyone who is using the phase incorrectly.
Re:Keyframes: Delivering scalable, high-quality animations t...
by icebraining on Tuesday November 22, 2016 @04:44PM
(#13017939)
They can't:
We have discovered that there is virtually no chance that the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office would register the mark "open source"; the mark is too descriptive. Ironically, we were partly a victim of our own success in bringing the `open source' concept into the mainstream.
https://news.slashdot.org/story/99/06/17/0213251/esr-on-the-...
Re:Keyframes: Delivering scalable, high-quality animations t...
by mioelnir on Tuesday November 22, 2016 @04:01PM
(#13017611)
> ... but "Open Source" is pretty much retconned to be defined by the OSI definition of the term
"Open source" as a term or development methodology is older than both the OSI definition and the Debian manual it is based on.