Re:Debian considers merging /usr
by gnarbarian on Tuesday November 22, 2016 @04:56AM
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It's what happens with any rolling release distro given enough time. We thought it would solve the problem of having to upgrade the OS and migrate every few years but it didn't really.
Now we have docker. Probably not solved until we write all our applications as some sort of crazy monad to minimize maintenance pain. I think docker is a meaningful step toward that.
Of course, now you need to deal with docker itself updating constantly, and the client not being able to talk to the server if they're updated more than 3 months apart.
Or just use rkt and don't worry about it. The CoreOS team takes api stability pretty seriously.
> until we write all our applications as some sort of crazy monad
Desktop Linux seems to be finally moving towards self-contained formats like AppImage and Flatpak. They are clearly not oriented towards server apps, but who knows.
OMG. Self contained apps were there starting from Linux 0.1. They are reinvented every second year.
Yeah but they never got traction for this or that reason. This time it looks like several big players actually agree on a common way forward. I guess time will tell.
>It's what happens with any rolling release distro given enough time.
Not really, the KISS nature of arch means that stuff that could be automated isn't because reasons, while systemd gets a special pass.
because systemd is a personal passion of one of the lead arch devs...
Interesting. I had zero trouble with this change on any of my boxes. Did not even have to --force the upgrade.
Well, the instructions on the frontpage were very clear and simple how to process the update.
It wasn't that bad. It did require manual intervention to get the install to work (which isn't a great surprise given the nature of the update) but it installed pretty painlessly on all bar one machine. The one exception being a laptop which I put off the update for several weeks and then left myself with a much larger job than it should have been - so really that one was partly my own fault.
The glibc update from around the same time was a much worse update update. I think that one did break every Arch install I had at that time.
It was actually the straw that broke the camel's back for me as an Arch user. This was around the time Arch Linux was going through lots of breaking changes.