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Re:Volkswagen plans 30K job cuts worldwide by acd10j on Friday November 18, 2016 @07:13AM (#12986186)
Wow ... so Executives who were actually responsible for taking this decisions will get away with it and staff will get fired. Always blame low level engineer seems to be the mantra.
Re:Volkswagen plans 30K job cuts worldwide by the-dude on Friday November 18, 2016 @07:34AM (#12986275)
FYI, they are hiring 9k too. This is as much about profitability as a transition to electrical.
Re:Volkswagen plans 30K job cuts worldwide by odabaxok on Friday November 18, 2016 @07:28AM (#12986253)
If that matters the former CEO immediately accepted responsibility and resigned in 2015.

I believe, these are further consequences of the budget cut, they are NOT blaming low level engineers for the emission scandal...

Re:Volkswagen plans 30K job cuts worldwide by st3v3r on Friday November 18, 2016 @01:53PM (#12989120)
Resigned with a golden parachute worth more than you or I will probably see in our lifetimes. Tell me, what actual consequences did that CEO face?
Re:Volkswagen plans 30K job cuts worldwide by acd10j on Friday November 18, 2016 @07:41AM (#12986312)
Re:Volkswagen plans 30K job cuts worldwide by odabaxok on Friday November 18, 2016 @08:06AM (#12986427)
I do not know the details, but Horn - who blames the engineers in your article - was fired too, two weeks before your article was published (with two other executives): http://www.autoblog.com/2015/09/24/horn-hackenburg-hatz-fire...
Re:Volkswagen plans 30K job cuts worldwide by lima on Friday November 18, 2016 @08:02AM (#12986406)
What if it's true?
Re:Volkswagen plans 30K job cuts worldwide by andygates on Friday November 18, 2016 @09:49AM (#12987078)
VAG said they had come clean, and now there's another software defeat going through in some Audi models now. Another rogue engineer? That hardly seems credible. Corporate bad faith and malfeasance? They're already in the thick of it.
Re:Volkswagen plans 30K job cuts worldwide by mathgeek on Friday November 18, 2016 @07:35AM (#12986281)
There may not be explicit blame, but the budget cuts are fallout from the scandal. Thus there are people losing their jobs while other people with (likely) more culpability for the scandal remain employed.

A simpler way to put it would be that there is at least one person with no role in those decisions that is losing their job because of the scandal.

Re:Volkswagen plans 30K job cuts worldwide by patates on Friday November 18, 2016 @07:37AM (#12986293)
This is a side effect (there definitely was a better word for this) of the crime, not the punishment.
Re:Volkswagen plans 30K job cuts worldwide by yitchelle on Friday November 18, 2016 @10:10AM (#12987234)
I don't think the article mentioned if executives are exempted. I think the 30K is across the board.
Re:Volkswagen plans 30K job cuts worldwide by aikah on Friday November 18, 2016 @09:08AM (#12986815)
Don't know why you're getting downvoted. Wolkswagen PR specifically blamed "the engineer culture" for them cheating. Like developers take any executive decision ...
Re:Volkswagen plans 30K job cuts worldwide by kuschku on Friday November 18, 2016 @09:16PM (#12991640)
You do realize that the CEO and executives who made those decisions were considered engineers? Because they started as engineers at VW, and had climbed the corporate ladder?

The Engineers actually standing in court now are also high-ranking managers. They just also happen to be professional engineers.

Re:Volkswagen plans 30K job cuts worldwide by blahi on Friday November 18, 2016 @08:26AM (#12986553)
Always ignoring the need for thoughtful and balanced research on the matter before forming an opinion seems to be the mantra. Reading more than the headline is hard, I know.

There are no people getting fired, just retiring people are not getting replaced.

I am far from the thought that this will be a lesson in humility to you though.

Re:Volkswagen plans 30K job cuts worldwide by jorge-d on Friday November 18, 2016 @08:33AM (#12986592)
But still, it's a cut in the job pool available in these countries.
Re:Volkswagen plans 30K job cuts worldwide by blahi on Friday November 18, 2016 @08:42AM (#12986651)
Over 10 years?
Re:Volkswagen plans 30K job cuts worldwide by wott on Friday November 18, 2016 @10:37AM (#12987435)
Where do you see "over 10 years"? It says "by 2020" and we are not in 2010, but in late 2016, so that's only 3 or 4 years.
Re:Volkswagen plans 30K job cuts worldwide by Pica_soO on Friday November 18, 2016 @07:36PM (#12991203)
"I don't care how you make it happen, i don't even want to know how you make it happen, but you will make it happen.."

CEO-Speech en coated gloves- they protect from responsibility, and reduce water costs if you got to wash your hands off.

Re:Volkswagen plans 30K job cuts worldwide by ddorian43 on Friday November 18, 2016 @08:30AM (#12986579)
Won't this increase the amount of work for the ones that remain ? Volkswagen increases time by 5% for all (610K total) ?