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Re:Fewer than 3% of cars sold in the U.S. have manual transm... by sturmeh on Thursday November 17, 2016 @11:14AM (#12978691)
I highly recommend everyone learns to drive a manual before it becomes a dead art, it's truly a lot more fun and engaging experience.

That being said there's obvious cause for the shift to all-automatic, just like we'll all be using self-driving cars not long in the future.

However what concerns me is that automatic transmissions are not only more expensive in general, but harder to maintain / less reliable. That a trend of laziness has created this demand, to the point where 97% of US consumers choose to pay more to automate the process I find so enjoyable.

To be fair a majority use case for driving is daily commute, and it's not nearly as fun to drive a manual in heavy traffic as it is to cruise windy roads on the weekend.

Re:Fewer than 3% of cars sold in the U.S. have manual transm... by hx87 on Thursday November 17, 2016 @11:24AM (#12978792)
> but harder to maintain

I'd have to dispute that--ATF change intervals are about the same as clutch change intervals (disregarding the "lifetime ATF" crap that manufacturers peddle) but cost far less, and otherwise automatic transmissions today last the lifetime of the car.

Re:Fewer than 3% of cars sold in the U.S. have manual transm... by jperras on Thursday November 17, 2016 @02:23PM (#12980561)
I think what he was getting at is:

if so inclined, you can repair or replace your own clutch (as a hobbyist or someone who is mechanically inclined), but doing the same to a hydraulic-based automatic transmission or a CVT is a tall order unless you are professionally trained.

Re:Fewer than 3% of cars sold in the U.S. have manual transm... by fnj on Thursday November 17, 2016 @02:35PM (#12980669)
ATF change - 30,000 miles. Clutch service - maybe 300,000 miles if your car body lasts that long before rusting to hell. That's if you know how to drive.
Re:Fewer than 3% of cars sold in the U.S. have manual transm... by arprocter on Thursday November 17, 2016 @03:30PM (#12981194)
The service schedule for a VW DSG is fluid change every 40k and there's also a filter which needs replacing too.
Re:Fewer than 3% of cars sold in the U.S. have manual transm... by gaur on Thursday November 17, 2016 @03:43PM (#12981335)
> it's truly a lot more fun and engaging experience.

No it isn't.

Re:Fewer than 3% of cars sold in the U.S. have manual transm... by mhkhung on Thursday November 17, 2016 @11:25AM (#12978804)
Automatic transmissions are way more reliable, with the computer shifting gears at perfect timing each time. None of my automatic transmission cars (1st hand, sold after 4-8 years) ever need to have its gear box repaired. Manual transmission, on the other hand, more than 1 thing would break for sure after 4 years (right after the warranty expires of course) for sure. Gearbox, clutch cables, ...

Cars with auto transmission costs and extra thousand but you get it back when you sell the car, plus you won't rack up expensive repairs and towing.

Re:Fewer than 3% of cars sold in the U.S. have manual transm... by thebspatrol on Thursday November 17, 2016 @11:39AM (#12978930)
Wait, you're suggesting that manual transmissions have more points of failure than automatic transmissions?

Not only are automatic transmissions significantly more complicated, they also fail catastrophically.

Your clutch is a consumable part. Consider it a writeoff. You might replace it once in your time owning the car if you hold on to it forever, and you still haven't made up the $2k difference in MSRP/whatever the difference may be on the used market.

Re:Fewer than 3% of cars sold in the U.S. have manual transm... by bischofs on Thursday November 17, 2016 @11:38AM (#12978912)
Not true at all, I am not sure what you are even talking about. Automatics are way more complicated and error prone, a stick is literally just gears, synchronizers and some torque shafts. Also manual transmissions having problems with "Gearbox"? What does that even mean?
Re:Fewer than 3% of cars sold in the U.S. have manual transm... by fnj on Thursday November 17, 2016 @02:36PM (#12980679)
Obviously you don't drive VWs!