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Re:Fewer than 3% of cars sold in the U.S. have manual transm... by baq on Thursday November 17, 2016 @03:53AM (#12975646)
can confirm with anecdata: in my car the computer reports 0.0 fuel consumption when coasting in gear but non-zero when in neutral/clutch depressed.
Re:Fewer than 3% of cars sold in the U.S. have manual transm... by PanMan on Thursday November 17, 2016 @06:25AM (#12976440)
A counter point: In my previous car the screen showed 0.0 when idling, which obviously was false (as the engine was still running). It should probably show infinite instead. (km/l for 0 km).
Re:Fewer than 3% of cars sold in the U.S. have manual transm... by _rav on Thursday November 17, 2016 @08:06AM (#12977071)
Some cars show liters per hour when stationary, which always seemed logical to me.
Re:Fewer than 3% of cars sold in the U.S. have manual transm... by petre on Thursday November 17, 2016 @10:00AM (#12977945)
Or change to l/h when you're stationary or with the clutch disengaged.
Re:Fewer than 3% of cars sold in the U.S. have manual transm... by ptaipale on Thursday November 17, 2016 @04:49AM (#12975985)
Of course it works that way, but just for the note: what the car computer reports in dash is manipulated by software and it can be anything. It's not necessarily completely true.
Re:Fewer than 3% of cars sold in the U.S. have manual transm... by ldev on Thursday November 17, 2016 @04:34AM (#12975885)
Simple understanding on how a car works - "wheels turn the engine" when in gear, otherwise fuel is consumed when in neutral..
Re:Fewer than 3% of cars sold in the U.S. have manual transm... by justin66 on Thursday November 17, 2016 @10:02AM (#12977962)
Not so simple. Until recently, a standard ICE couldn't stop injecting fuel while coasting (unless you turned the car off, which brings other problems...).

I remember when I was learning to drive being taught about engine braking (with an automatic) and the tradeoff between using up the brakes or burning fuel.

Re:Fewer than 3% of cars sold in the U.S. have manual transm... by ygra on Thursday November 17, 2016 @10:25AM (#12978205)
For every fuel-injected engine the ECU should cut injection when coasting. So "recently" in your case applies to carburettors which will behave as if the engine were idle and thus still feed fuel to the engine. I'm not sure 25 years ago counts as "recently".
Re:Fewer than 3% of cars sold in the U.S. have manual transm... by justin66 on Thursday November 17, 2016 @11:16AM (#12978716)
> For every fuel-injected engine

Well, I own a 911 that says otherwise. It's an older fuel injection system (Bosch K-Jetronic), but it's most certainly fuel injection. Porsche wasn't the only maker to use Bosch fuel injection.

I just don't think DFCO (deceleration fuel cutoff) was a feature of most of the early electronic fuel injection systems. Perhaps it was standard by the time EFI made it to economy cars. I'm fighting a massive urge to go down this historical rabbit hole and read about it, but there's work to be done today.

Re:Fewer than 3% of cars sold in the U.S. have manual transm... by kbart on Thursday November 17, 2016 @07:05AM (#12976677)
another anecdata: I once drove a car that reported negative fuel consumption when driving down the hill.

EDIT: no, it was neither electric nor hybrid car, but some old petrol car with manual transmission (Saab 900 or similar).

Re:Fewer than 3% of cars sold in the U.S. have manual transm... by TeMPOraL on Thursday November 17, 2016 @07:20AM (#12976766)
Electric cars generally do that ;).
Re:Fewer than 3% of cars sold in the U.S. have manual transm... by mannykannot on Thursday November 17, 2016 @07:19AM (#12976762)
A hybrid?