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Re:Our World Is Going Full ‘Black Mirror’ by 1_2__3 on Wednesday November 16, 2016 @12:36PM (#12969305)
I remember asking someone why Cyberpunk died and he said, a dystopian and orwellian future where we lose our individuality in favor of technical advancement? Why would anyone be interested in that as fiction, it's what we're living today.
Re:Our World Is Going Full ‘Black Mirror’ by dominotw on Wednesday November 16, 2016 @12:45PM (#12969388)
Re:Our World Is Going Full ‘Black Mirror’ by pjc50 on Wednesday November 16, 2016 @01:27PM (#12969841)
A few days late and dollars short there.

Meanwhile, it's not the partisan purge you think it is:

Kevin Allred posted "would conservatives care as much abt the 2nd amendment if guns killed more white people? a question meant to expose double standard" https://twitter.com/KevinAllred/status/798751660340195328

and gets the police coming to him https://twitter.com/KevinAllred/status/798729156557205504 and twitter ordering him to take it down (but not the quote??) https://twitter.com/KevinAllred/status/798925131288641536

Re:Our World Is Going Full ‘Black Mirror’ by dwaltrip on Wednesday November 16, 2016 @02:17PM (#12970401)
Is there more to this story? I'm blown away. That's insane and very troubling.

EDIT: It seems that the poster above may have left out some important details. According to an alleged screenshot linked below, the tweet actually said: "Will the 2nd amendment be as cool when I buy a gun start shooting at random white people?"

This is not obviously just an abstract political point. It could understandably be interpreted as a direct threat.

Re:Our World Is Going Full ‘Black Mirror’ by fmj on Wednesday November 16, 2016 @02:28PM (#12970529)
https://twitter.com/Travesham/status/798941639909609472

Here are the since deleted tweets. I'll let you come to your own conclusions.

Re:Our World Is Going Full ‘Black Mirror’ by pjc50 on Wednesday November 16, 2016 @02:54PM (#12970827)
How do we know those are the actual deleted tweets?

(Now we have a truth problem don't we? I could be lying, the guy posting the screenshots could be lying, the original poster could be lying. Turtles all the way down)

I mean, there's some MSM coverage of this which says essentially what I did: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/rutgers-professor-psych-...

Re:Our World Is Going Full ‘Black Mirror’ by farright on Wednesday November 16, 2016 @02:29PM (#12970545)
Yes there is. The actual tweet, verbatim was "will the 2nd amendment be as cool when i buy a gun and start shooting atrandom white people or no...[two eyes emoji]". Scroll down in the thread to see it.

This is exactly the kind of misinformation bubble that people are talking about. Kevin Allred is clearly misrepresenting his original tweet.

Re:Our World Is Going Full ‘Black Mirror’ by grzm on Wednesday November 16, 2016 @02:46PM (#12970728)
I agree misinformation/misrepresentation is a problem. Do you think this misinformation bubble is happening more on one side or the other, or is more evenly split?
Re:Our World Is Going Full ‘Black Mirror’ by farright on Wednesday November 16, 2016 @02:57PM (#12970858)
I think the left tends to deal in half truths or highly questionable interpretations of facts passed off as facts, while the right deals more in outright lies.

But the left has the ability to get you fired if you question their assertions too much. So their falsehoods are actually more effective

Re:Our World Is Going Full ‘Black Mirror’ by grzm on Wednesday November 16, 2016 @03:03PM (#12970920)
It'd be interesting to dig in and see what the distribution of methods is. There should be enough out there on line now, if someone wanted to take it on.

Then again, who'd believe the results? :) Who fact checks the fact checkers?

"But the left has the ability to get you fired if you question their assertions too much."

Would you expand on this?

Re:Our World Is Going Full ‘Black Mirror’ by farright on Wednesday November 16, 2016 @03:36PM (#12971236)
Sure, I will give an example. Most people on the left believe that black Americans commit more crime per capita then whites, and that this is due to various sociostructural phenomena. However another common viewpoint is that the gap in conviction rates is actually due to a biased justice system and blacks do not actually commit more crime.

The latter view is rarely argued in academic circles so I've never seen it rigorously defended. But it is passed off as fact to the general public.

Now I am not able to correct this later group because if I do so, not only will they attack me as racist, but the former group will not defend me. In fact the former group will say "the only reason you would present this fact in isolation is because you want to imply black people are genetically inclined to crime". This would most likely result in disciplinary action in my workplace.

Re:Our World Is Going Full ‘Black Mirror’ by grzm on Wednesday November 16, 2016 @03:55PM (#12971416)
Thanks for the response. What I was hoping to see was some support based on some broad, non-anecdotal, cross-domain research that showed that the left (by some definition) exerts statistically more power in actually firing people for ideological reasons. Please don't take that as a criticism. I'm not looking to score points. I suspect this kind of research is hard to do in a convincing manner.
Re:Our World Is Going Full ‘Black Mirror’ by dopamean on Wednesday November 16, 2016 @04:29PM (#12971739)
> "would conservatives care as much abt the 2nd amendment if guns killed more white people? a question meant to expose double standard"

We already have the answer to that question and it is a resounding YES. When the Black Panthers decided to open carry in California in the 70s (I think it was the 70s) conservatives freaked out and passed legislation (led by Reagan I believe) to limit the rights of Californian citizens to open carry.

Re:Our World Is Going Full ‘Black Mirror’ by mc32 on Wednesday November 16, 2016 @12:56PM (#12969511)
Twitter reserves the right to kick out whomever it feels violates their policy. As a corporate entity, they have that right.

What I don't agree with is the targeting of a single ideology. If they are doing this in the name of sanitizing content, fine, but sanitize hate speech from all sides.

That said, my preference would be for them to provide better tools for people to manage content of hate or abuse. Of course then we get the echo chamber effect.

Re:Our World Is Going Full ‘Black Mirror’ by myowncrapulence on Wednesday November 16, 2016 @01:43PM (#12970002)

  Twitter reserves the right to kick out whomever it feels violates their policy. As a corporate entity, they have that right.
One could have argued for that same premise for the "government" in the dark ages. At what point does an entity have to obtain enormous power over everyday life to become seen as a "government"? And at what point do we allow our basic lives to become so censored by corporations before we acknowledge it as hampering our first amendment?
Re:Our World Is Going Full ‘Black Mirror’ by voxic11 on Wednesday November 16, 2016 @03:51PM (#12971373)
When they have a monopoly on the legitimate use of force. Next question.
Re:Our World Is Going Full ‘Black Mirror’ by myowncrapulence on Friday November 18, 2016 @08:52PM (#12991550)

  legitimate use of force
Explain this. What would you consider "legitimate"?

  Next question.
And try not to sound like such an arrogant piece of shit next time you hand-wave difficult questions which challenge your perception of right and wrong.
Re:Our World Is Going Full ‘Black Mirror’ by voxic11 on Thursday November 24, 2016 @06:31PM (#13033442)
Sorry I was an ass. But I do really think your question has had a very good answer for over 300 years. What is considered legitimate is necessarily a subjective call, and will differ from community to community.
Re:Our World Is Going Full ‘Black Mirror’ by untog on Wednesday November 16, 2016 @01:09PM (#12969633)
The great purge... of alt-right, white supremacist accounts, yes.
Re:Our World Is Going Full ‘Black Mirror’ by vidarh on Wednesday November 16, 2016 @01:17PM (#12969719)
I love how the guy they've talked to compares his banning to Hitlers purge of SA leaders.

The purge of SA happened after Hindenburg threatened Hitler with martial law if Hitler didn't reign in SA (though Hitler had his own motives for going along with it - they were a threat to him as well), which were seen as particularly nasty and brutal.

Comparing yourself with the people that other parts of German society at the time literally saw as worse than Hitler is perhaps not quite what to go for when trying to elicit sympathy.

He should at the very least then not complain if people call him a nazi.

Re:Our World Is Going Full ‘Black Mirror’ by tim333 on Wednesday November 16, 2016 @07:28PM (#12973031)
Also the SA purge resulted in extrajudicial executions, possibly even worse than a Twitter ban.
Re:Our World Is Going Full ‘Black Mirror’ by Animats on Wednesday November 16, 2016 @01:33PM (#12969895)
This may backfire. White Power is mainstream now.
Re:Our World Is Going Full ‘Black Mirror’ by geuis on Wednesday November 16, 2016 @01:54PM (#12970123)
No it's not.
Re:Our World Is Going Full ‘Black Mirror’ by eli_gottlieb on Wednesday November 16, 2016 @02:31PM (#12970563)
Mainstream is not a synonym for "morally acceptable". It's a battleground of what we allow to be normal.
Re:Our World Is Going Full ‘Black Mirror’ by tdkl on Wednesday November 16, 2016 @03:01PM (#12970910)
Seems that anti-white slurs and calls for a president assassination are a-OK with Twitter though[1]. Hypocrisy much ? But considering who's the generous donator [2], I'm not even shocked.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXpi3F0E5ro

[2] http://qz.com/519388/this-saudi-prince-now-owns-more-of-twit...