Re:Dan Rather: Now, More Than Ever, We Must Stand Up for Sci...
by Retric on Monday November 14, 2016 @12:59PM
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Please take your https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem somewhere else, it only suggests ignorance on your part.
Re:Dan Rather: Now, More Than Ever, We Must Stand Up for Sci...
by touleier on Monday November 14, 2016 @01:03PM
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"suggests ignorance" == ad hominem. Rather is a discredited hack. Get a clue.
Re:Dan Rather: Now, More Than Ever, We Must Stand Up for Sci...
by Retric on Monday November 14, 2016 @01:04PM
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I don't care if he is insane, who he is says nothing about his message. At most a speaker simply calls into question the evidence they are using to support an idea, not the idea.
Re:Dan Rather: Now, More Than Ever, We Must Stand Up for Sci...
by sctb on Monday November 14, 2016 @01:50PM
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> Get a clue.
Please stop this. We need you to comment civilly and substantively on Hacker News or not at all.
Re:Dan Rather: Now, More Than Ever, We Must Stand Up for Sci...
by hackuser on Monday November 14, 2016 @12:49PM
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I don't see one mistake (assuming it is that; I don't know the details) in a long career as discrediting him, or else everyone is discredited. We have nobody left.
Integrity isn't binary; it's not all or nothing.
Re:Dan Rather: Now, More Than Ever, We Must Stand Up for Sci...
by touleier on Monday November 14, 2016 @02:00PM
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If you don't know the details, that is easily remedied by reading the CBS Report, which I linked to. It is free. I followed this controversy at the time, and it is very revealing precisely in those details, which I read in full as soon as it came out. Rather was guilty of assisting fraud in the service of a cause, no other conclusion is reasonable. That certainly disqualifies him as a serious commentator going forward. Trust matters. Yet now he is being resurrected to lecture us about science.
Re:Dan Rather: Now, More Than Ever, We Must Stand Up for Sci...
by MrZongle2 on Monday November 14, 2016 @11:53AM
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I'm glad somebody brought this up. Rather is no Cronkite, Murrow or Brinkley: the Killian documents debacle demonstrated that he was sloppy at best, and was more interested in pushing a political agenda than digging for the truth. That's the antithesis of science.
This doesn't invalidate the need for climate change research -- not by far! -- but he shouldn't be the poster boy for any fact-based cause at this point.
Re:Dan Rather: Now, More Than Ever, We Must Stand Up for Sci...
by cnnsucks on Monday November 14, 2016 @12:42PM
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This doesn't deserve down mod. If Hacker News is going to cite Dan fucking Rather about anything then pointing out the intellectual fraud this guy is guilty of is 100% legitimate.
http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/complete_report/CBS_Report...