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Re:Ask HN: Have you done / plan to do any basic “prepping” (... by masonic on Monday November 14, 2016 @04:03AM (#12948481)
Yet again, you dodge the question, and yet again, you refer to media articles that quote no actual data.

I read each of the "studies" you refer to in the years they were released, and many, many more. I've been studying criminology for 23 years.

Repeating the "I'm not anti-gun" mantra whilst referring only to anti-RKBA sources (and misquoting those) reinforces intellectual dishonesty.

And as for "Their chance of being a victim of violent crime such as home invasion or car jacking is unbelievably tiny", you really haven't examined the data. There are dozens of carjackings and home invasions (aka "hot burglary" - entering when residents are present) each month in the Bay Area alone. If you rely only on media reports, they are typically reported only as "burglaries".

What is actually "unbelievably tiny" is one's odds of being killed by an "assault weapon", yet phony claims to the contrary drive the media narrative. Drownings excluding those in swimming pools exceed homicide by "assault weapon" in the U.S.

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Re:Ask HN: Have you done / plan to do any basic “prepping” (... by ux-app on Monday November 14, 2016 @04:18AM (#12948535)
> There are dozens of carjackings and home invasions (aka "hot burglary" - entering when residents are present) each month in the Bay Area alone

and how many of those result in murder? Or do you believe that using lethal force to protect property is ok? If this is the case then we have no common ground.

My position is that being scared and losing your TV isn't grounds for ending a burglar's life.

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Re:Ask HN: Have you done / plan to do any basic “prepping” (... by masonic on Monday November 14, 2016 @04:39AM (#12948625) 

  do you believe that using lethal force to protect property is ok?
When an armed party has broken into a home, knowing residents are present, only a fool would assume that only personal property is at risk. There's a fundamental difference in home invasion from, say, breaking into an unoccupied vehicle.
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Re:Ask HN: Have you done / plan to do any basic “prepping” (... by ux-app on Monday November 14, 2016 @05:06AM (#12948698)
> only a fool would assume that only personal property is at risk

this is a classic example of emotion clouding better judgement. A more rational approach would be to look at the data:

- In 2010, there were an estimated 2,159,878 burglaries [1]

- In 2013 there were 94 murders associated with burglary

This is a 0.00435% chance that you will be killed in the course of a burglary. I'm sure this number will go down dramatically as long as you don't grab a gun ;)

[1] https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/crime-in-the-u.s.-...

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