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Re:Visual Studio for Mac by erelde on Monday November 14, 2016 @03:15AM (#12948291)
I don't know if it's just the usual whining of people complaining about new things.

From the exterior (I'm too young and the only Mac I've ever used was the Macintosh Plus -bragging, with 4Mo of RAM- while I was a child), it really seems like Apple has dropped the ball for professionals, both developers and graphics people.

There are now equally well designed PCs (laptops and desktops) from other manufacturers, Windows has a lot of support, if you want to use Linux, the kernel now supports a wide range of hardware.

In the meantime, Apple doesn't have a good desktop offering, and their laptops seem gimmicky to me while not offering a performance edge over their competitors.

A few months ago I thought about buying a (my first) Macbook and waited for their announcement, now I'm looking the other way.

And around me, I'm the guy people go to ask when they have a computer related purchase to make.

Re:Visual Studio for Mac by nicky0 on Monday November 14, 2016 @04:35AM (#12948603)
> equally well designed PCs

That bit is debatable.

Re:Visual Studio for Mac by amiga-workbench on Monday November 14, 2016 @09:12AM (#12949872)
I agree, PC manufacturers havent quite caught on that less is more (at least aesthetically)

I see machines like the HP Spectre and feel they are still somewhat overdesigned.

Re:Visual Studio for Mac by Twisell on Monday November 14, 2016 @03:39AM (#12948375)
I don't now where you lived the past 20 years but theses are maybe the most classical arguments against mac in business.

Mac have never been "for Pro" if you go that way. So I guess it confirm that it's not the company that shifted it's focus, but maybe there is more potentials customers expectation of Apple going more "pro".

Re:Visual Studio for Mac by erelde on Monday November 14, 2016 @03:57AM (#12948452)
They may be classics, but are they wrong?

Yes, Apple has never targeted businesses, but they did target individuals professionnals at some point. Video and sound editors used to work on Macs, and now move to windows. It's a classic, but is it wrong?

Re:Visual Studio for Mac by Twisell on Monday November 14, 2016 @06:01AM (#12948949)
I guess as always it will mostly depend on your use case.

However this recent announcement from IBM might emphasis the need to reconsider theses year old arguments to take accounts of new facts : https://www.jamf.com/blog/debate-over-ibm-confirms-that-macs...

Re:Visual Studio for Mac by erelde on Monday November 14, 2016 @06:46AM (#12949158)
I knew about that (and Google's Macs).

But for standards businesses with relatively technologically inept people, when you need an Active Directory, you just need it.