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Re:Why Medical Bills Are Killing Us (2013) [pdf] by ams6110 on Sunday November 13, 2016 @08:28PM (#12946858)
Routine medical care should be like food and shelter: something you are expected to pay for yourself. That would put price pressure on providers. Insurance should be a backstop for catastrophic accident or illness. It should be sold by competing local and national providers. It should be untangled from employment as a benefit. You should buy it like car insurance.

Obama, Trump, Clinton. senators, representatives -- none (or very few) of these people have any medical background and really can do little else but screw it up as badly as if the government was the single provider of all software.

Re:Why Medical Bills Are Killing Us (2013) [pdf] by nradov on Sunday November 13, 2016 @08:38PM (#12946906)
Maybe it should be that way, however in practice it doesn't work. The ACA specifically requires free preventive services because research has shown that when patients have to pay they often skip it. And when they skip preventive care that causes the spread of infectious diseases, and allows small problems to turn into serious problems that are more difficult and expensive to treat. So this is important from a public health standpoint regardless of concerns over economic efficiency or personal responsibility.

https://www.healthcare.gov/coverage/preventive-care-benefits...

Re:Why Medical Bills Are Killing Us (2013) [pdf] by coredog64 on Sunday November 13, 2016 @09:07PM (#12947033)
Preventative care that actually works is super cheap and not controversial (mostly vaccinations). This idea that we can save vast sums via preventative care is a fantasy. You may find anecdotes to support it, but the serious literature doesn't bear it out.
Re:Why Medical Bills Are Killing Us (2013) [pdf] by ceejayoz on Sunday November 13, 2016 @09:11PM (#12947048)
> Preventative care that actually works is super cheap

The same's true about car maintenance, but plenty of people drive on dying brake pads and stretch oil changes anyways. A hundred bucks for a checkup is still more than many folks are willing to pay. As an example, here's a kid who died for want of a $80 dental procedure: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02...

> not controversial (mostly vaccinations)

LOL.

Re:Why Medical Bills Are Killing Us (2013) [pdf] by cableshaft on Monday November 14, 2016 @10:51AM (#12950541)
Well they usually want to do more expensive procedures along with the dental extraction. I've been delaying mine a bit because they want to take it out then put in a bridge, which will cost $1800 (normally $6700, but I have good dental insurance). In fact the extraction will be free, the cost is all in the bridge. But now you've got me paranoid again. Damn.
Re:Why Medical Bills Are Killing Us (2013) [pdf] by AznHisoka on Sunday November 13, 2016 @09:39PM (#12947134)
from a personal standpoint i often skip preventive care even if its free. I am either just lazy or scared my doctor will tell me something bad.
Re:Why Medical Bills Are Killing Us (2013) [pdf] by snarf21 on Monday November 14, 2016 @08:44AM (#12949750)
I agree with this. Obamacare should have created rules for a national minimum policy, largely targeted at catastrophic incidents. Remove the ability of employers to buy coverage for their employees (a holdover from WWII staffing shortages) and let be more open and market driven.

We also need to reform pharma. When even K-mart has a pharmacy it shows how much money could be removed there.

Lastly, we need to change our perspective about aging. If you live long enough, you will (most likely) get cancer. This is how the body works, not specifically a "disease". We need to stop paying $1M for the 75 year old who gets brain cancer so that they can live for 2 extra months. Feel free to spend your own money but Medicare won't. They already have laws like this in France, etc.

Re:Why Medical Bills Are Killing Us (2013) [pdf] by digler999 on Sunday November 13, 2016 @09:06PM (#12947027)
> should

and minimum wage should be enough to live on, housing should be affordable a reasonable distance from where you work. but for some strange reason, the world doesn't work that way.

Re:Why Medical Bills Are Killing Us (2013) [pdf] by ryuker16 on Monday November 14, 2016 @01:54AM (#12947992)
I suspect many will skip it entirely...there was a reason car insurance was made mandatory.