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Re:Myron Ebell Takes On the E.P.A. by KirinDave on Saturday November 12, 2016 @10:01AM (#12938109)
> The coal alignment is a bigger deal than climate change. We are SOL on climate change anyway (barring a scientific miracle)--there is no point worrying about whether one administration will or will not engage in token gestures.

I really want to push back on this. This is in fact an anti-climate-change talking point used to say, "Look it just doesn't matter what we do." While it's true that the destabilizations currently taking place are absolutely a part of our lifetime, in the 200 year timeline the scientific consensus is that if we cut our emissions substantially within this century we will in fact avoid locking our descendents into a full climate flip that is NOT avoidable.

The canonical paper people quote about this is: http://www.ecoequity.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/meinshau...

We need to play an aggressive game before 2050, and we can save the ice caps. That is not a token gesture. That's the line that we can draw to not destroy every coastal city in the world.

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