Re:Peter Thiel To Join Trump Transition Team
by Moshe_Silnorin on Thursday November 10, 2016 @11:34PM
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I very much dislike Trump and would never vote for the man. Both sides use race baiting. Spurious use of the word "racist" against those who dislike government intervention and entitlements has basicly denuded the term of its once-quite-considerable power. They called Bush racist, wasn't true. They called Romney racist, a laughable claim. They called Trump racist and maybe this time there're right, but what does "racist" even mean again?
Re:Peter Thiel To Join Trump Transition Team
by hamtaroPhD06 on Thursday November 10, 2016 @11:53PM
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When someone is racist and sexist, it is everyone's duty to call what they are: racist and sexist.
Re:Peter Thiel To Join Trump Transition Team
by jacquesc on Friday November 11, 2016 @01:59AM
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Agreed. But if you call anyone who disagrees with you on economic policy a racist and sexist, it opens the door for an actual racist and sexist to get in.
Re:Peter Thiel To Join Trump Transition Team
by hamtaroPhD06 on Friday November 11, 2016 @02:09AM
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Which is not the case right now. So yes the president elect of the US is racist and sexist and a % of his supporters are openly racist and/or sexist people.
This is not a disputed fact in anyway
Re:Peter Thiel To Join Trump Transition Team
by Prefinem on Friday November 11, 2016 @10:56AM
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But when you claim that "all" his supporters are racists and sexists, you lose validity and just enrage people who are not which has adverse reactions
Re:Peter Thiel To Join Trump Transition Team
by gohrt on Thursday November 10, 2016 @11:52PM
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Being opposed to urban people getting entitlements, but in favor of rural people getting entitlements, is approximately racist, when you factor in demographics.
Re:Peter Thiel To Join Trump Transition Team
by puranjay on Friday November 11, 2016 @02:11AM
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At this point, I'm not even sure what's more racist: calling a group of people "lazy and unintelligent", or molly-coddling a group of people because "they need special attention".
The way the left treats minorities is pretty patronizing, to be frank.
(I say this as a minority)
Re:Peter Thiel To Join Trump Transition Team
by gracenotes on Friday November 11, 2016 @05:25AM
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I am not sure what molly-coddling means in this context, but as a single data point you can look at the platform page of a minority advocacy group: [0]. The actual low-level details of many of the policies (if not the headlines) share a lot in common with Sanders' platform, for instance.
I'd like to think that, for the most part, trying to address a societal problem like [1] is better than denying that any action is needed, even if the increased visibility causes strife—[2] is of interest here—or we don't get it right the first time. It's hard to discuss because many Americans begin on vastly different pages with vastly different experiences.
[0]: https://policy.m4bl.org/platform/
[1]: http://www.benjerry.com/whats-new/systemic-racism-is-real
[2] https://www.africa.upenn.edu/Articles_Gen/Letter_Birmingham....
Re:Peter Thiel To Join Trump Transition Team
by MicroBerto on Friday November 11, 2016 @12:11AM
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When you start calling every Trump supporter a race baiter, bigot, or racist without understanding their viewpoint, it's time to stop using those words and take a look in the mirror.
Re:Peter Thiel To Join Trump Transition Team
by codingdave on Friday November 11, 2016 @09:09AM
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Disagreement is one thing. Outright blindness to issues that could destroy humanity, and that are not in question, such as global warming, are something else entirely. But it is too late to fret over that - what is important now is supporting those people who CAN work with Trump to make better decisions. So whether you like Trump or Thiel or think they are dimwits, we'll get a better result by helping them vs. bitching about things on the internet.
(In two years, this cycle starts all over again. Save your energies for that time.)
But using race baiting to gain political power crosses a line that should never be crossed. He should not be helping to legitimize this.