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Re:Whatever happened to Japanese laptops? by dep_b on Monday November 07, 2016 @06:15AM (#12890223)
I bought a Sony VAIO MultiFlip 13A for my wife because she loves Sony's design and she wanted a touchscreen, so we bought the basic model with an SSD.

a) of a 128GB SSD, only 90GB was left after Sony took wat they thought was necessary

b) the fan was incredibly noisy, it would crash randomly and would eventually die and take the notebook with it

c) when put in a less performant mode, it's really less performant and still gets really hot

d) the touch screen freaks out and other issues once it gets hot

e) it still ran Windows

That's what happened to Japanese laptops in my personal experience. Now I could eventually fix a) and b), e) was still required for Adobe software and it's still a freaking hot slow laptop that freaks out once in a while.

Re:Whatever happened to Japanese laptops? by kw71 on Monday November 07, 2016 @06:33AM (#12890310)
Your disappointments are not reflective of the Japanese industry. I can criticise Japan a lot, but honestly your complaints are only about Sony.

Sony was floating in the bowl during the mid-80s and becoming a content producer was what flushed them into the sewer.

The quality, innovation, engineering and thoughtfulness that Sony Electronics worked so hard to build their reputation on did not disappear overnight, but it is all gone now.

Today, Sony Electronics is a junk factory and a remarketer of junk. Your life will be better if you simply avoid anything with a Sony nameplate or that incorporates Sony components.

Re:Whatever happened to Japanese laptops? by dep_b on Monday November 07, 2016 @08:12AM (#12890730)
> Your disappointments are not reflective of the Japanese industry. I can criticise Japan a lot, but honestly your complaints are only about Sony.

Sure, but I was still expecting to get a Sony

I love Japanese stuff in a lot of other categories. Can't beat Korg or Roland in terms of price and quality, even the cheapest stuff.

Re:Whatever happened to Japanese laptops? by pjc50 on Monday November 07, 2016 @06:27AM (#12890290)
VAIO were always beautiful garbage. Toshiba, on the other hand, were amazing, both in the regular size and the tiny Librettos.
Re:Whatever happened to Japanese laptops? by yuhong on Monday November 07, 2016 @02:00PM (#12893808)
I have a strong feeling that Sony VAIO probably has the worst quality BIOSes for years.
Re:Whatever happened to Japanese laptops? by pwg on Monday November 07, 2016 @06:26AM (#12890282)
> a) of a 128GB SSD, only 90GB was left after Sony took wat they thought was necessary

> e) it still ran Windows

Your "e" item indicates that it was not Sony who took 90G of the 128G SSD, but rather it was Microsoft who took 70% of the drive space.

Lay the blame where it belongs, on Microsoft, they created an OS that consumes 90G of disk space. Sony did not create mswin, Sony just installed it because it is what most of their target market believes they want pre-installed.

Re:Whatever happened to Japanese laptops? by dep_b on Monday November 07, 2016 @08:10AM (#12890715)
Nope, that was wat Sony took for all kinds of rescue stuff. After that we were still looking at Windows and various Adobe Software plus scratch (working with external drives for storage, naturally).
Re:Whatever happened to Japanese laptops? by kafkaesk on Monday November 07, 2016 @07:08AM (#12890443)
90 GB is what was left, not what was used. But even 38 GB seems a bit too much for a fresh OS, I assume that includes a recovery partition or the good old GiB/GB mix-up.
Re:Whatever happened to Japanese laptops? by Dylan16807 on Monday November 07, 2016 @12:22PM (#12892799)
> GiB/GB

That's only 7%

Re:Whatever happened to Japanese laptops? by SmellyGeekBoy on Monday November 07, 2016 @10:10AM (#12891612)
> they created an OS that consumes 90G of disk space

Was it some sort of Sony-only release? I've run every major version of Windows over the years and never had one come anywhere near this sort of size.