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Re:Forget self-driving car anxiety: In the early days human ... by saiya-jin on Monday November 07, 2016 @04:19AM (#12889801)
plus cars heavily respect red lights, something most cyclists don't give a fraction of a f__k about.

And on top of that - their brakes are useless, they in many cases drive as fast as they can, downhill or not. Yeah, for me as a driver, cyclists are the biggest threat in the cities and outside (effectively anywhere but highways). As a pedestrian, cyclists are again the biggest thread in the towns mostly on pedestrian crossings.

Re:Forget self-driving car anxiety: In the early days human ... by zimpenfish on Monday November 07, 2016 @05:06AM (#12889967)
On an average day walking about London, I will probably see 5 cars an hour jump a blatant red and 10-15 accelerate on yellow to beat the red. And that's ignoring all the other dangerous things that cars do.
Re:Forget self-driving car anxiety: In the early days human ... by Tomte on Monday November 07, 2016 @04:37AM (#12889850)
Cyclists have a tendency to disregard traffic lights (and I feel that urge myself when cycling), because it's so darn strenuous to get back to normal speed.

As a pedestrian stopping and going again is effortless. As a car driver the same. Only cyclists dread stopping.

Re:Forget self-driving car anxiety: In the early days human ... by gjm11 on Monday November 07, 2016 @08:00AM (#12890659)
Stopping and starting a car may not require physical effort but it does burn more fuel, gives you a less even ride, and makes traffic flow less smoothly. When I'm driving I try quite hard to avoid having to stop at lights. (By slowing gradually as I approach them, not by going through them when red.) I warmly commend this policy to other drivers.