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Re:Hyper Is Docker Done the Right Way by teilo on Friday November 04, 2016 @01:01PM (#12874062)
It is absolutely relevant: If your container is running its own kernel, then it is consuming memory for that kernel, not to mention the CPU overhead of the hosted kernel. Additionally, every container must also boot a complete OS. More overhead. This is why traditional containers use a shared kernel with process group isolation. You pay for what you use. A traditional container only uses what it needs for the app itself, and it starts in a fraction of the time because it doesn't have to boot anything. Performance and cost may be acceptable regardless, but that's not the point. Containers are more efficient.

Based upon responses from Hyper, they appear to address these concerns in a manner I have never heard before. I will certainly be looking into their core technology.

Re:Hyper Is Docker Done the Right Way by riobard on Sunday November 06, 2016 @01:10AM (#12883636)
The value proposition of Hyper is that the overhead of guest kernel is greatly reduced to the point of being insignificant if you run any significant apps inside HyperContainers, meanwhile you gain the benefit of kernel isolation and ditching VM cluster management altogether.
Re:Hyper Is Docker Done the Right Way by antocv on Friday November 04, 2016 @04:27PM (#12875800)
They dont boot a "complete OS", they boot the kernel and a process - that is it, not your systemd which brings in Firefox kind of "complete OS".
Re:Hyper Is Docker Done the Right Way by scprodigy on Friday November 04, 2016 @01:08PM (#12874130)
But you don't own the server, thus you don't pay for the overhead (if any).
Re:Hyper Is Docker Done the Right Way by teilo on Friday November 04, 2016 @01:17PM (#12874202)
I'm sorry, but you don't know what you are talking about. You pay for what you use. I don't own Amazon's servers either, but I pay for every bit of memory and CPU time that my EC2 instances use, and that includes the memory and CPU time consumed by my instance's kernel.
Re:Hyper Is Docker Done the Right Way by scprodigy on Friday November 04, 2016 @01:56PM (#12874502)
Ok, I'm a bit lost too. So, your question is the memory consumed by the VM kernel? The tradeoff is the ops overhead to manage the VM instance.