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Re:Social media shutdown in Turkey by denfromufa on Thursday November 03, 2016 @09:28PM (#12869679)
What does this have to do with actual censorship, shutting down media, and jailing of journalists critical to Erdogan?
Re:Social media shutdown in Turkey by myf01d on Thursday November 03, 2016 @09:38PM (#12869712)
I am from Egypt, I remember very well, when the revolution of June 2013 broke out against the muslim brotherhood, the US said it stands with the "legitimate" regime (back then morsi), when they were toppled, the US said it was coup (funny they said it was a revolution when it was against Mubarak). And everyone here is suffering from an unofficial economic embargo enforced by the US on us ever since.

It is simply a coup or a revolution, a democracy or a dictatorship, depending on the "relations" between the US politicians and these governments.

Re:Social media shutdown in Turkey by hackuser on Thursday November 03, 2016 @11:42PM (#12870198)
I'm not from Egypt, but my understanding is:

1) Mubarak was an unelected dictator; he was replaced by a democratically elected government.

2) Morsi was democratically elected and replaced by a military dictatorship; thus it was a coup.

Re:Social media shutdown in Turkey by myf01d on Friday November 04, 2016 @12:20AM (#12870361)
1) Mubarak was elected democratically in 2005.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_presidential_election...

2) Mubarak was also forced to resign by the same military council in February 2011 and the military council ruled until June 2012 when morsi was elected, it just wasn't called a "coup" and "military dictatorship" back then by the western media.

Re:Social media shutdown in Turkey by hackuser on Friday November 04, 2016 @02:10AM (#12870685)
> 1) Mubarak was elected democratically in 2005.

Stalin and many (most?) other dictators also have staged elections. From the article you linked:

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Of the 30 proposed candidates, only 10 were allowed to participate in the presidential election by the Presidential Election Commission. One prominent candidate not allowed to run was Talaat Sadat, the nephew of former President Anwar Sadat, who appealed his disqualification unsuccessfully.

Egypt's largest Islamic group, the Muslim Brotherhood, was not permitted to field a candidate ...

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And also:

official results showing he won 88.6% of the vote. Mubarak's opponent, Ayman Nour, of the Tomorrow Party, is estimated to have received 7.3% of the vote and Numan Gumaa received 2.8%,

Numbers like that are unseen in any legitimate election. The highest in U.S. history was 61%.

Re:Social media shutdown in Turkey by myf01d on Friday November 04, 2016 @03:29AM (#12870900)
Still not more dictatorial than detaining tens of thousands and even freeing thousand of criminals to get some room for the alleged coup plotters, a coup where a couple of hundred young soldiers most of whom didn't even know what was going on, and laying off hundreds of thousands of people from all professions (academia, sport, journalism). At the same time, his army is crushing kurd civilians not only in Turkey, but now in Syria and Iraq. Who is more like Stalin do you think? Mubarak or Erdogan?
Re:Social media shutdown in Turkey by triplesec on Friday November 04, 2016 @06:05AM (#12871421)
So they're all rubbish. What would constitute a good system of government in Egypt?
Re:Social media shutdown in Turkey by markdown on Friday November 04, 2016 @04:58AM (#12871184)
> The highest in U.S. history was 61%.

That's not surprising since the US doesn't make election day a public holiday.

Re:Social media shutdown in Turkey by jospoortvliet on Friday November 04, 2016 @07:27AM (#12871737)
he didn't mean attendance but percentage of votes for the winner.
Re:Social media shutdown in Turkey by frandroid on Friday November 04, 2016 @12:36AM (#12870414)
2.0a) As soon as Morsi got elected, his Muslim Brotherhood started passing laws to make the country in their image, and in a short period of time, would have become an Islamic dictatorship. I'm no fan of Sissi's coup but there was no democratic outcome after that election.
Re:Social media shutdown in Turkey by 1915again on Friday November 04, 2016 @12:17AM (#12870342)
Wow. How can Egyptians be so poor in their understanding of the Politics of Egypt. Time and again.

- Mubarak was America's best friend. American's public support for Egyptian democracy? Yeah, that's just for show.

- Who else was America's best friend? The Egyptian army. 90% of US aid goes to propping of the Egyptian military and has for decades (basically the army is in their pockets). America and IDF has had an excellent working relationship (ie help with killing Palestinians) with the Egyptian military for decades.

- Americans didn't like Morsi at all, Although overtly they claimed to support Egyptian democracy.

- Eventually Morsi, messes up. And guess who is there to save the day? Why its the Egyptian Army! Morsi tried to restrict democracy. Sisi will defend democracy by removing it entirely. Next thing you know the entire democratic elected cabinet is on death row and Mubarak is slowly but surely having his charges removed, while living under 'House arrest' in his comfy house.

- Who is now emperor of Egypt? Why its America's point man and best buddy for decades, Sisi (This is purely coincidence, wink wink ). America will very loudly suspend all aid to the dictatorship, only to very quietly resume it a year later.

Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.

Re:Social media shutdown in Turkey by catalinbraescu on Friday November 04, 2016 @03:47PM (#12875449)
" And everyone here is suffering from an unofficial economic embargo enforced by the US on us ever since."

Lol. USA is pumping up every year more than 1 billion USD into Egypt.

Re:Social media shutdown in Turkey by tdkl on Friday November 04, 2016 @05:30AM (#12871288)
We've always been at war with Eastasia.