/r/electronic_cigarette is the primary ecig subreddit. /r/diy_ejuice is a good resource for people interested in making their own eliquid. can't access the spreadsheet i made at the moment to check, but i pay somewhere in the order of a dollar worth of ingredients for 30ml of juice.

The mark up for juice at most vape stores is obscene, yet still manages to be cheaper than regular cigarettes. $15 for 30 mL at my local store, that lasts me on average 15 days. So it's still roughly half the price for a half pack a day smoker and 1/4 of the price for a pack a day smoker (assuming a very generous $5 a pack).

If you mix your own juice you're approaching savings that are better on an order of magnitude.

I highly recommend Vapejoose, they have 120ml bottles for $23.99, sometimes $20, and they offer free shipping over $50.

Three 120ml bottles last me close to an entire month. Local stores around here are also a rip-off (near Austin, Texas).

Thanks for the rec - I also hail from Austin so we are venting about the same obscenties :)

You're welcome! I live "near" Austin in that I live in Red Rock (no no not Round Rock).

Vaping is something I do A LOT of while post-processing photos! Do you perhaps have a photographic interest?

Also check out Rocky Top Vapor! 145ml for that price, and sometimes have sales where it's only $17 for 145ml. GREAT juice too. I love their Cereal Milk and Strawberry Fruit Chew flavors.

360ml a month??

That's more than 10ml a day! I know you're going to disagree and try to convince me otherwise, but that is an INSANE amount of liquid.

Different tanks consume different amounts. If you subohm on a 2+ coil rig you will use a TON of product than 20w mod ever could. Maybe his equipment plays a significant factor into his volume consumed.

Hah yeah I agree it's absurd! However I enjoy vaping and it helps to calm anxiety that I get from my bipolar.

I should try and cut back some and reduce my nicotine dosage of 1.5mg down to 0mg but I don't mind the nicotine.

I'm also addicted to coffee so about 2-3 full Yeti cups a day. Woe is me!

it's crazy how expensive some juices are, especially when a lot are pretty simple flavor profiles with lots of sweeteners and colorings added in.

once i found some diy recipes that i enjoyed, i made a pair of 120ml, and the cost savings from those two bottles alone covered all the ingredients and equipment (beakers, stirring rods, scale, bottles, etc). diy is especially worthwhile if your device guzzles juice like my geekvape griffin tank does.

diy or die on youtube is a great resource, here's one of the recipes i make regularly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlI8CvT8SCA

I'm a cheap bastard, so I just buy Chinese liquid. 50ml for 11 bucks.

If you're buying domestic juice you pay a premium for nothing special, from what I can tell. Also, the chances of it being made in a proper factory are basically nil. It's often someone else's DIY garage juice at a 10000% markup.

Yeah, I'd agree on the markup part for sure. From my experience the quality difference between "premium" and cheap juice is small but noticeable. These days I only buy juicse with flavors that are tough to work with, coffee and chocolate in particular.

I haven't kept up with the new FDA guidelines since starting DIY about a year ago, but from what I remember a lot of the little garage brands are going to be in trouble. My buddy used to work at Apollo out in Concord and I know they take their juice seriously. I think it's shitty, but it's not because the line is dirty haha. Molecule Labs out in Benicia has a pretty cool facility as well.

If they had established flavors before the guidelines were put into place, they will be fine for now - just no new flavors. Unfortunately the hamstringing of innovation will eventually lead to their demise.

For sure, I take it they're able to start making new flavors again upon meeting the guidelines? Seems like it'll just force people to outsource manufacturing to somewhere like Molecule or just fold, which is a shame. It's been a lot of fun watching the industry explode over the last few years.

I tried my hand at mixing myself but was not successful. Could not make anything that I considered good. With the goal of simplicity I chose to buy pre-made coils and buy pre-made juice.