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Re:Realistic alternatives to Apple computers by vladimir-y on Tuesday November 01, 2016 @01:44PM (#12848302)
> I don't get the amount of grudge towards Apple for the new MBPs

MBP would be a fine laptop for a twice less cost. There are cheaper decent alternatives.

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Re:Realistic alternatives to Apple computers by NEDM64 on Tuesday November 01, 2016 @02:20PM (#12848717)
Except those alternatives are usually crap and more expensive
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Re:Realistic alternatives to Apple computers by vladimir-y on Tuesday November 01, 2016 @04:25PM (#12849731)
That's not true, unless you are talking about Asus/Lenovo products, see larger picture.
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Re:Realistic alternatives to Apple computers by NEDM64 on Tuesday November 01, 2016 @04:53PM (#12849919)
Which alternative has a 3 gigabyte per second SSD?

And four USB-C 3.1 ports with TB 3.0?

And a TouchBar?

And really last 10 hours on battery (Microsoft advertised 12 for the SurfaceBook and it only lasted 6 on the same test the MBP lasted 10)

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Re:Realistic alternatives to Apple computers by vladimir-y on Tuesday November 01, 2016 @05:52PM (#12850361)
Those things is not a deal breaker, it doesn't make sense to pay double price in comparison with similar laptops just to get above things, especially TouchBar which costs about $500 and will make you fill uncomfortable with laptop at least for a first time (but I guess constantly).
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Re:Realistic alternatives to Apple computers by NEDM64 on Tuesday November 01, 2016 @06:07PM (#12850511)
Yes they are, along with real life battery usage, trackpad, keyboard, size, screen, etc.

I dont know where you got the $500 touchbar, and I don't want to know.

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Re:Realistic alternatives to Apple computers by vladimir-y on Tuesday November 01, 2016 @06:08PM (#12850527)
Keep rest mate, I'm glad you made your choice.
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Re:Realistic alternatives to Apple computers by NEDM64 on Wednesday November 02, 2016 @05:20AM (#12853191)
> TouchBar which costs about $500

Still waiting...

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Re:Realistic alternatives to Apple computers by vladimir-y on Wednesday November 02, 2016 @05:37AM (#12853240)
You will have to wait a long time since

> I dont know where you got the $500 touchbar, and I don't want to know.

A small hint, just compare prices for touchbar based laptops and those with usual fn keys (13 inch model is optionally shipped with usual fn keys, not the 15 inch though).

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Re:Realistic alternatives to Apple computers by zimpenfish on Wednesday November 02, 2016 @05:43AM (#12853258)
Comparing the 13" with and without the TouchBar from https://www.apple.com/macbook-pro/specs/, the price difference between the $1499 model and the $1999 model covers: TouchBar; faster CPU; an extra 256GB of SSD; slightly better GPU; two more USB-C/TB3 ports; an extra microphone.
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Re:Realistic alternatives to Apple computers by vladimir-y on Wednesday November 02, 2016 @06:14AM (#12853381)
This is what I meant, TouchBar + a pack of the minor improvements which should not cost +$500. Also take into the account that seems there is no option to get top hardware, but with an usual fn keys.

It's better to get HP x360 for $1300 with i7-7500U / 512 SSD / 16GB Ram (which in addition has a touch screen and it's convertible) than a slightly worse Macbook for $2000.

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