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Re:Benjamin Button Reviews the New MacBook Pro by mrzool on Monday October 31, 2016 @04:44AM (#12835067)
In fact, the only thing I don't like about this utterly brilliant piece is that it revolves only around developers. It would have been a much stronger statement if only :%s/developers/professionals.
Re:Benjamin Button Reviews the New MacBook Pro by idlewords on Monday October 31, 2016 @04:49AM (#12835090)
You're right—point taken!
Re:Benjamin Button Reviews the New MacBook Pro by nicky0 on Monday October 31, 2016 @05:06AM (#12835183)
How would you define 'professionals' in this context? Professonal what?

It seems the definition is "anyone for whom this product is unsuitable", as in "well this laptop may be OK for [x] but for a real professional like me it is a joke".

Re:Benjamin Button Reviews the New MacBook Pro by mrzool on Monday October 31, 2016 @05:19AM (#12835238)
Well, the categories which the MBP is supposedly targeted to: graphic/web designers, photographers, musicians, artists, filmmakers and makers of any kind. Of course that includes developers.

Seems to me that the new features appeal more to the casual user who uses its laptop for leisure (your [x]) than the professional.

Re:Benjamin Button Reviews the New MacBook Pro by angry_octet on Monday October 31, 2016 @06:19AM (#12835545)
Musicians need ports, and already have gear to lug around; they don't need more dongles. A single standard usb 3 port would have gone a long way.

It is also a massive pain when someone wants to give you something on a usb stick. Same goes for people in publishing and other content creation industries. People who want to plug an external monitor in to give a ppt without needing a special dongle.

Re:Benjamin Button Reviews the New MacBook Pro by nicky0 on Monday October 31, 2016 @06:29AM (#12835586)
This is your definition of "professionals"? People who use USB sticks, and external monitors for ppt?
Re:Benjamin Button Reviews the New MacBook Pro by idlewords on Monday October 31, 2016 @08:18AM (#12836046)
That is a perfectly sensible definition of actual professional use.

Not two days ago I presented at a conference where I had to plug an HDMI cable into my laptop, and in the middle of setting that up, I transferred over a backup copy of my presentation to the house laptop on a USB stick.

Now maybe I am not a professional in your eyes. But I was wearing a suit!

Re:Benjamin Button Reviews the New MacBook Pro by illumin8 on Monday October 31, 2016 @02:58PM (#12839833)
I already carry a dongle to convert Thunderbolt to VGA, because you can't count on conference room projectors having a connector made in the last decade... Now I just need to carry one more for HDMI.

I'm fairly certain that a USB-c to standard USB port will also be a dongle that every Macbook Pro owner will need to carry. Apple should bundle 2 with every Macbook Pro, but the whiners would still complain...

Re:Benjamin Button Reviews the New MacBook Pro by nicky0 on Tuesday November 01, 2016 @11:59AM (#12846980)
You are very much a professional in my eyes. In which case I don't see a problem wit the new MacBook. It has four ports each of which supports USB and DisplayPort.

Yes, you need either a new cable, a new flash drive, or an adapter. But don't pretend that makes this laptop totally unsuitable for your use.

Re:Benjamin Button Reviews the New MacBook Pro by angry_octet on Tuesday November 01, 2016 @01:48AM (#12843687)
I never said that was my definition of "professionals". That is you being snarky.

The common themes to wanting a Macbook Pro is that you want more grunt and more I/O, and you have the money to pay for it. A common need among this group is exchanging large data sets, and not being willing to use iCloud/Dropbox/Google Drive to do it for a variety of reasons, like speed, convenience, confidentiality. These are also people who often want to do this in a variety of locations.

Re:Benjamin Button Reviews the New MacBook Pro by nicky0 on Tuesday November 01, 2016 @11:55AM (#12846921)
You were replying to my comment asking for a definition.