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Re:New MacBook Pro Is Not a Laptop for Developers Anymore by Spartan-S63 on Friday October 28, 2016 @11:48AM (#12817253)
As a fellow Vim user, I don't use the escape key anymore. It's awkward to hit and I rebind it to "jj" (or more recently "jk"). It's unergonomic to reach for the escape key where it customarily is. If it were where Caps Lock is, it would make much more sense.

That said, I don't like rotating my hand or remove my fingers from the home row.

It's really a non-issue because you can rebind keys so easily, it's not even funny. Everyone seems to be making a mountain out of a molehill.

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Re:New MacBook Pro Is Not a Laptop for Developers Anymore by 43812912 on Friday October 28, 2016 @11:55AM (#12817345)
Vim user here. I use the ESC key; I can hit it in a fluent motion while lifting the hand completely off the home row (much like a pianist).

It gives an opportunity to relax the hand. For the same reason I'm not a fan of hjkl and often use the arrow keys.

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Re:New MacBook Pro Is Not a Laptop for Developers Anymore by grardb on Friday October 28, 2016 @12:01PM (#12817417)
This. I never "learned" how to type, and while I've tried, I simple can't get rid of almost 20 years of muscle memory typing like a buffoon. It's much easier for me to use ESC and the arrow keys than people who keep their hands on the home row.
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Re:New MacBook Pro Is Not a Laptop for Developers Anymore by gurkendoktor on Friday October 28, 2016 @12:12PM (#12817540)
> If it were where Caps Lock is, it would make much more sense.

macOS Sierra allows you to rebind Caps to the Esc key, which seems like a good compromise to me. As a non-vim user, I just wish I could bind Caps to other keys as well :(

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Re:New MacBook Pro Is Not a Laptop for Developers Anymore by bartvk on Saturday October 29, 2016 @09:04AM (#12823751)
Have a look at Karabiner-Elements. The author recently open sourced it and kept up his brisk development pace. Every year he updates I'm lockstep with macOS releases and every year, I donate. Amazing project.
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Re:New MacBook Pro Is Not a Laptop for Developers Anymore by anfogoat on Friday October 28, 2016 @12:24PM (#12817685)
Mapping caps to ESC is not really an option when you have it mapped to something else already, and I'd imagine a lot of devs do.
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Re:New MacBook Pro Is Not a Laptop for Developers Anymore by sliverstorm on Friday October 28, 2016 @01:02PM (#12818153)
If it were where Caps Lock is, it would make much more sense

Which, interestingly, is where ESC was on the computer that vim was first written for.

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Re:New MacBook Pro Is Not a Laptop for Developers Anymore by Spartan-S63 on Friday October 28, 2016 @01:20PM (#12818360)
That's what I was getting at when I mentioned it :)

Bill Joy's keyboard had escape where caps lock is today.

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Re:New MacBook Pro Is Not a Laptop for Developers Anymore by the_watcher on Friday October 28, 2016 @12:02PM (#12817435)
> If it were where Caps Lock is, it would make much more sense.

You can remap your key bindings to exactly this layout using Karabiner-Elements.

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Re:New MacBook Pro Is Not a Laptop for Developers Anymore by wrs on Friday October 28, 2016 @12:53PM (#12818046)
In fact, Karabiner can map caps lock to both control (if you use it with another key) and escape (if you just press it). Which is fantastic.
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Re:New MacBook Pro Is Not a Laptop for Developers Anymore by teilo on Friday October 28, 2016 @07:11PM (#12821565)
No, not in Sierra, because Karabiner classic does not work in Sierra. Karabiner-Elements, which is Sierra-only, can only do basic key remapping. None of the fancy stuff.
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Re:New MacBook Pro Is Not a Laptop for Developers Anymore by steeef on Saturday October 29, 2016 @12:57AM (#12822696)
Yet. There's a pull request in the works that would do just that:

https://github.com/tekezo/Karabiner-Elements/pull/247

You could build from the latest update and get that functionality.

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Re:New MacBook Pro Is Not a Laptop for Developers Anymore by teilo on Friday October 28, 2016 @07:13PM (#12821572)
You don't need Karabiner-Elements for this. Esc remapping is supported in 10.12.1 natively.
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Re:New MacBook Pro Is Not a Laptop for Developers Anymore by kenoph on Friday October 28, 2016 @12:52PM (#12818033)
I tried "jk" but I hated seeing the cursor pause every time I used "j" to go down.
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Re:New MacBook Pro Is Not a Laptop for Developers Anymore by sliverstorm on Friday October 28, 2016 @01:02PM (#12818139)
That doesn't seem right- I use "jj" to escape insert mode and nothing unusual happens when I use hjkl to navigate in normal mode. The only "pause" is when I type the letter "j" in insert mode.
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Re:New MacBook Pro Is Not a Laptop for Developers Anymore by Spartan-S63 on Friday October 28, 2016 @01:22PM (#12818389)
Yeah, I agree. That doesn't seem right at all. I use "inoremap jk <ESC>" to remap my escape key.
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