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Re:Ask HN: What is your favorite internet rabbit hole? by furyg3 on Monday October 24, 2016 @03:02PM (#12781774)
I don't even... why in the world would it be important for a doctor to differentiate being struck by a dolphin or struck by orca (side note: orcas are dolphins!).
Re:Ask HN: What is your favorite internet rabbit hole? by audeyisaacs on Monday October 24, 2016 @04:15PM (#12782439)
I believe it's for statistical purposes(if it's anything like death codes here in Aus).

If there is an uptick in dolphin strikes, the Government(or some environmental management group) may do something about the dolphin problem.

Re:Ask HN: What is your favorite internet rabbit hole? by ajdlinux on Monday October 24, 2016 @08:31PM (#12784191)
Speaking of Australian death codes: http://deathmatch.me/
Re:Ask HN: What is your favorite internet rabbit hole? by mdip on Tuesday October 25, 2016 @07:37AM (#12787004)
Or if there's a sudden lack of dolphin related accidents it might be good to look into whether or not the end of the world is eminent[0].

[0] http://hitchhikers.wikia.com/wiki/Dolphins

Re:Ask HN: What is your favorite internet rabbit hole? by flukus on Monday October 24, 2016 @07:21PM (#12783800)
Wouldn't it also hide increases of "injured by a sea creature" that could be more useful in policy making.
Re:Ask HN: What is your favorite internet rabbit hole? by audeyisaacs on Tuesday October 25, 2016 @01:18PM (#12789732)
I don't think so, though I don't know in practice I imagine there would be categories that aggregate the individual codes.
Re:Ask HN: What is your favorite internet rabbit hole? by avip on Monday October 24, 2016 @06:19PM (#12783411)
The only semi-plausible explanation is some weird insurance plan crafted for sea-world (et-al) staff. Neither Orcas nor (other) Dolphins were ever recorded to attack human beings out of captivity anyhow.
Re:Ask HN: What is your favorite internet rabbit hole? by tunap on Tuesday October 25, 2016 @10:31AM (#12788291)
Unless an over-amorous encounter could be considered an attack. Seems to be a real problem, wonder if there's a code for 'loved to death(drowning) by dolphin'

https://www.google.com/#q=dolphin+amorous

Re:Ask HN: What is your favorite internet rabbit hole? by frabcus on Monday October 24, 2016 @03:43PM (#12782139)
This was puzzling me (as a UK citizen). A clue in another comment hinted that it is about insurance.

Still not sure why a dolphin would be covered in a policy but not an orca...

Re:Ask HN: What is your favorite internet rabbit hole? by khedoros1 on Monday October 24, 2016 @05:20PM (#12783015)
I don't think that it would be used to decide whether an incident was covered or not, just to categorize it for statistical purposes or something.

It's the kind of data that might be used to say "shark attacks are up 23% on the US east coast over the last three years".

Re:Ask HN: What is your favorite internet rabbit hole? by DashRattlesnake on Monday October 24, 2016 @07:45PM (#12783931)
It would be interesting to read a design document (or post-hoc technical analysis) that enumerates all the purposes that medical billing codes are used for. Maybe it would explain the easily-mocked craziness.
Re:Ask HN: What is your favorite internet rabbit hole? by Jill_the_Pill on Monday October 24, 2016 @04:40PM (#12782674)
Orca is a "killer" whale -- you were duly warned. ;)
Re:Ask HN: What is your favorite internet rabbit hole? by bduerst on Monday October 24, 2016 @03:54PM (#12782243)
These are diagnosis codes, so it wraps up to national-level reporting - i.e. 35 people were injured by dolphins this year.

Also, insurance companies get crazy nit-picky with what types of treatment they'll cover for diagnoses. There is an entire industry around scrubbing claims and making sure treatment meets the diagnosis codes.

Re:Ask HN: What is your favorite internet rabbit hole? by ada1981 on Monday October 24, 2016 @07:21PM (#12783799)
Pretty sure my co only covers Dolphin and NOT Orca strikes.
Re:Ask HN: What is your favorite internet rabbit hole? by jasonlbaptiste on Monday October 24, 2016 @07:06PM (#12783710)
Insurance billing. These need to be exact in order to correlate to a) rates negotiated b) data collected for future underwriting c) exact repayment. Medical billing is a crazy world.
Re:Ask HN: What is your favorite internet rabbit hole? by hackuser on Monday October 24, 2016 @08:30PM (#12784175)
Isn't all this coding a U.S. phenomenon? I've read that single-payer systems like Canada's require orders of magnitude less labor and paperwork.
Re:Ask HN: What is your favorite internet rabbit hole? by danohu on Tuesday October 25, 2016 @06:44AM (#12786751)
In the UK there is still a lot of this, even though healthcare is centrally funded and (somewhat) centrally administered.

I worked briefly with a company doing medical transcription. It opened my eyes to how much billing-related paperwork goes on in hospital back offices.

Re:Ask HN: What is your favorite internet rabbit hole? by tiglionabbit on Monday October 24, 2016 @04:59PM (#12782837)
Probably because orcas are so much larger.
Re:Ask HN: What is your favorite internet rabbit hole? by Sanity_ on Monday October 24, 2016 @04:05PM (#12782343)
Clearly that is the medical code for being struck by a Mahi-mahi, which can reach nearly 60lbs and travel at speeds above 55mph. /end sarcasm
Re:Ask HN: What is your favorite internet rabbit hole? by protomyth on Monday October 24, 2016 @03:10PM (#12781848)
Severity of injury?
Re:Ask HN: What is your favorite internet rabbit hole? by ghurtado on Monday October 24, 2016 @03:16PM (#12781902)
I've gotta believe that some dolphin injuries are more severe than some orca injuries.

At any rate, once the code describes a situation so specific that it may only classify a few injuries a year, what possible benefit may come from that?

Re:Ask HN: What is your favorite internet rabbit hole? by protomyth on Monday October 24, 2016 @03:56PM (#12782263)
Am I missing a table since I can find the orca thing, but it doesn't have a listing for bear. Please tell me bears are a bigger danger than orcas?

// holy crud, the comment section is now a rabbit hole - good job karim

Re:Ask HN: What is your favorite internet rabbit hole? by tiglionabbit on Monday October 24, 2016 @05:09PM (#12782926)
Yeah, bears are not specifically mentioned. You'd have to file it by W55.8: contact with other mammal.
Re:Ask HN: What is your favorite internet rabbit hole? by ghurtado on Monday October 24, 2016 @05:22PM (#12783039)
You guys are either pulling my leg, or I just entered a Volgon message board by mistake.
Re:Ask HN: What is your favorite internet rabbit hole? by protomyth on Monday October 24, 2016 @06:14PM (#12783383)
Nope, we are quite serious. Download https://www.cms.gov/Medicare/Coding/ICD10/Downloads/2016-Cod... and enjoy.

So, an orca (9 codes) and a squirrel (6 codes) have their own damn codes but a friggin bear is in the other category?!? Heck, wolves, coyotes, bears, and mountain lions all don't have their own codes. I see a lobbying effort that needs to go on to show the true nature of dangerous animals in the US and quit hiding these attacks in the other category.

On the other hand, I do like the difference between cats and dogs:

  W540XXA Bitten by dog, initial encounter
  W540XXD Bitten by dog, subsequent encounter
  W540XXS Bitten by dog, sequela
  W541XXA Struck by dog, initial encounter
  W541XXD Struck by dog, subsequent encounter
  W541XXS Struck by dog, sequela
  W548XXA Other contact with dog, initial encounter
  W548XXD Other contact with dog, subsequent encounter
  W548XXS Other contact with dog, sequela
  W5501XA Bitten by cat, initial encounter
  W5501XD Bitten by cat, subsequent encounter
  W5501XS Bitten by cat, sequela
  W5503XA Scratched by cat, initial encounter
  W5503XD Scratched by cat, subsequent encounter
  W5503XS Scratched by cat, sequela
  W5509XA Other contact with cat, initial encounter
  W5509XD Other contact with cat, subsequent encounter
  W5509XS Other contact with cat, sequela
Re:Ask HN: What is your favorite internet rabbit hole? by MichaelMoser123 on Monday October 24, 2016 @08:14PM (#12784077)
Conspiracy theory: the diagnosis codes were compiled by Bears who tried to avoid attention to their own kind.