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Re:Iceland, a land of Vikings, braces for a Pirate Party tak... by chrisseaton on Monday October 24, 2016 @07:15AM (#12777905)
Why is party discipline undemocratic?

If you want to get the benefit of the support and branding of a political party it seems reasonable that you should have to follow their rules. The discipline only extends so far as removing that support. That seems fair to me. Does it not to you?

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Re:Iceland, a land of Vikings, braces for a Pirate Party tak... by Jarwain on Monday October 24, 2016 @07:19AM (#12777919)
I personally have issues with the idea that having to conform/fit into a political party being the only/most effective way to gain political popularity
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Re:Iceland, a land of Vikings, braces for a Pirate Party tak... by tremon on Monday October 24, 2016 @01:50PM (#12781083)
Why is party discipline undemocratic? Why is party discipline undemocratic?

Can you explain why you think it's not? I think party discipline is simply autoritarianism applied within a political party. If anything, it advertises to me that said party doesn't really believe in democratic principles.

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Re:Iceland, a land of Vikings, braces for a Pirate Party tak... by tdb7893 on Monday October 24, 2016 @06:04PM (#12783313)
You can still pick which parties to support or even create a new party and that choice seems to me to be the foundation of representative democracy.
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Re:Iceland, a land of Vikings, braces for a Pirate Party tak... by tremon on Tuesday October 25, 2016 @04:59AM (#12786343)
The "foundation of representative democracy" is to have a representative in the decision making process (-cracy) for every part of the populace (demos). Political parties are not essential to that premise. Representatives that can have their voice heard are.
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Re:Iceland, a land of Vikings, braces for a Pirate Party tak... by tdb7893 on Tuesday October 25, 2016 @11:33AM (#12788802)
Sorry for being unclear, but it's having a choice that is essential, not parties themselves. It is a representative democracy, you just choose a party instead of a person but it's the exact same concept.
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