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Re:Mirai Botnet Linked to Dyn DNS DDoS Attacks by agnivade on Saturday October 22, 2016 @01:16AM (#12767313)
Can someone ELI5 how does malware infect IOT devices ?

The firmware which is there can only be upgraded from the OEM sites right ? So unless there is a way to affect the firmware from outside, how will a malware affect it ?

And what can I do to secure an IOT device if I have one ?

Re:Mirai Botnet Linked to Dyn DNS DDoS Attacks by desdiv on Saturday October 22, 2016 @01:29AM (#12767358)
The malware hardcodes 62 common username:password pairs like root:12345 [0] and apparently there are millions of IOT devices out there where these trivial passwords will get you root.

[0] https://github.com/0x27/linux.mirai/blob/6d5a3e2760852444de9...

Re:Mirai Botnet Linked to Dyn DNS DDoS Attacks by Pxtl on Saturday October 22, 2016 @02:27AM (#12767520)
I think he's asking more about how the attackers get past the simple NAT. I mean, unless you deliberately expose the device as a webserver to the public internet, a device should be by-default hidden theoretically unless it goes looking for trouble online. Of course, considering the quality of most routers, it's not like the NAT itself is terribly safe.
Re:Mirai Botnet Linked to Dyn DNS DDoS Attacks by jagermo on Saturday October 22, 2016 @03:58AM (#12767728)
They don't need to. Millions of devices have their telnet port open to the Internet (just check Shodan), after infecting those, Mirai has a beach head to scan and attack the rest of the network.
Re:Mirai Botnet Linked to Dyn DNS DDoS Attacks by marmot777 on Thursday October 27, 2016 @08:48PM (#12811873)
This is what so few people seem to talk about. Why? I'm baffled.
Re:Mirai Botnet Linked to Dyn DNS DDoS Attacks by fulafel on Saturday October 22, 2016 @03:12AM (#12767624)
The simplest idea is to put your exploit as JS payload in some shady ad network or auto-cracked PHP website, and get to the devices by scanning & fingerprinting devices on the browser's rfc1918 network. Then use a reverse shell style connection to c&c.
Re:Mirai Botnet Linked to Dyn DNS DDoS Attacks by bsamuels on Saturday October 22, 2016 @04:00AM (#12767733)
malicious javascript can only send packets on your rfc1918 network via a DNS rebinding attack, which is not trivial to pull off and is not very reliable

all of these iot devices use upnp to bypass the nat 'firewall'

Re:Mirai Botnet Linked to Dyn DNS DDoS Attacks by tyingq on Saturday October 22, 2016 @11:33AM (#12769074)
This approach seems to work without DNS rebinding: https://thehackerblog.com/sonar-a-framework-for-scanning-and...

Edit: Note that the example does try to do some DNS rebinding on the router, but that's the end goal. The attack itself doesn't rely on rebinding. It does require "already logged on to the router" users, but I suspect an attack using default login credentials is possible as well.

Re:Mirai Botnet Linked to Dyn DNS DDoS Attacks by soneil on Saturday October 22, 2016 @07:27AM (#12768280)
I'd like to see someone actually name & shame the devices involved. With evidence, of course.

I've had a quick poke around my house, and the couple of devices I have (wemo, philips hue) are holding pretty persistent outbound http connections - not dropping their trousers and exposing telnet.

Persistently exposed telnet sounds more to me like industrial control devices, network appliances, etc. But "IoT" is so vague that we're immediately jumping to blaming consumer devices.

Re:Mirai Botnet Linked to Dyn DNS DDoS Attacks by travanx on Saturday October 22, 2016 @11:44AM (#12769124)
Dahua. And then there are the Alibaba Chinese Hikvision cameras that generally can't be firmware updated. Seems like plenty of people port forward to their cameras as most of the camera forums say over and over to use VPN and not port forward.

"The specific Dahua IPC-HFWxxx old type vulnerable password was the one used to let this in, but that depends on how we apply our traps." http://blog.malwaremustdie.org/2016/10/mmd-0058-2016-elf-lin...

Re:Mirai Botnet Linked to Dyn DNS DDoS Attacks by gregmac on Saturday October 22, 2016 @03:02AM (#12767605)
> get past the simple NAT.

UPnP

Though you still have to exploit.

I wonder how many are running some linux variant though, and have some remote execution vulnerability on their web UI (maybe even without logging in)..

Re:Mirai Botnet Linked to Dyn DNS DDoS Attacks by fulafel on Saturday October 22, 2016 @03:05AM (#12767610)
Sadly the present state of software engineering is mostly incapable of archieving what your reasonable expectation is. Malware can exploit bugs in the devices to get arbitrary code execution (=run any code the attacker wants).