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Re:All Tesla Cars Being Produced Now Have Full Self-Driving ... by erikpukinskis on Thursday October 20, 2016 @12:39PM (#12753866)
Level 5 is unachievable and unnecessary. There will always be some small number of locales that confound the system. But if you can't use autonomy a few times per year, who cares?

When we get to level 4 the game is over, it's just an adoption curve at that point.

Re:All Tesla Cars Being Produced Now Have Full Self-Driving ... by baq on Thursday October 20, 2016 @03:28PM (#12755334)
20W meat computers with stereo mics and low-res HDR cameras are level 5 autonomous, don't underestimate digital ones.
Re:All Tesla Cars Being Produced Now Have Full Self-Driving ... by fdgdasfadsf on Thursday October 20, 2016 @06:45PM (#12756834)
The humans brains processing power for visual and spatial stuff is amazing. We may get there for computers one day - but we are not even close yet.
Re:All Tesla Cars Being Produced Now Have Full Self-Driving ... by mtgx on Thursday October 20, 2016 @01:52PM (#12754513)
I don't know how "unnecessary" it is if we're talking snowed roads, country roads, roads that haven't been painted in a decade or longer, or if we're talking about autonomous cars without a wheel.

Under those conditions, it's pretty much Level 5 or bust. But yes, that doesn't mean Level 4 cars won't start getting adopted, especially if the autonomous systems are just another "feature" on a regular car (hopefully EVs in all or most cases).

Re:All Tesla Cars Being Produced Now Have Full Self-Driving ... by robszumski on Friday October 21, 2016 @02:51AM (#12758617)
Having to turn off self-driving features will be like losing cell service. It's not what you paid for, it can be mildly inconvenient, but you get over it and on with your day.