How the Web Became Unreadable

Re:How the Web Became Unreadable by digi_owl on Wednesday October 19, 2016 @11:20AM (#12744555)

And once more i am surprised about who comments on HN.

Hi Hannibal.

Edit: and yeah, i have had similar thoughts about designers ruining things. My particular hobbyhorse in that regard is _nix desktop environments.

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Re:How the Web Became Unreadable by zeveb on Wednesday October 19, 2016 @01:14PM (#12745628)

> My particular hobbyhorse in that regard is _nix desktop environments.

Oh yes, that reminds me: GNOME now pops up a message bar informing one that one has no messages every time one's mouse hits the bottom of the screen, and steals focus from the currently-running app. Why? I never used to worry about messages, I still have none, and I keep on dying while I'm playing computer games because suddenly the game no longer responds to my input.

I realised long ago that the GNOME developers neither like, nor respect, nor indeed care for their users (c.f. the fact that after a decade it still hasn't added the ability to properly configure the screensaver), but even this seems a little much.

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Re:How the Web Became Unreadable by digi_owl on Wednesday October 19, 2016 @01:31PM (#12745789)

I have heard, basically from the horses mouth, that users are idiots. The Gnome devs apparently did some usability testing, and came away with that opinion...

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Re:How the Web Became Unreadable by Declanomous on Wednesday October 19, 2016 @02:36PM (#12746415)

So gnome devs treat their users like morons. Their users leave to use KDE, XFCE, Cinnamon, etc, and find the desktop environment satisfactory.

I think this says more about the devs than it does the desktop environment, unless the fact that GNOME used to ship with Ubuntu skewed things.

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Re:How the Web Became Unreadable by digi_owl on Wednesday October 19, 2016 @02:48PM (#12746547)

Dunno about KDE, they seem to be following in Gnome's footsteps these days. As for XFCE and Cinnamon, they have limited options as more and more Gnome assumptions gets baked into GTK (vanishing scrollbars anyone?). Our best bet may be XLQT, but they were lacking in manpower.

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Re:How the Web Became Unreadable by braveo on Wednesday October 19, 2016 @07:00PM (#12748452)

I've been a happy user of i3 for years now. I preferred KDE until 4 came out. From my perspective it was horrible and I went looking for an alternative.

I found a home in i3 and would never go back, even if KDE went back to the old desktop. When in Windows land I use virtuawin, but it doesn't touch i3.

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Re:How the Web Became Unreadable by dragandj on Wednesday October 19, 2016 @07:28PM (#12748629)

Me too. Set up xmonad several years ago, and almost haven't touched it since. It just works. No annoyances, I can concentrate on my work!

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Re:How the Web Became Unreadable by scrollaway on Thursday October 20, 2016 @04:53AM (#12750695)

LXQt is still going and still lacking in manpower. I used to do UX for it and still do when I have spare time but the project needs more people. If anyone wants to help, email me, jerome at leclan dot ch

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