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Re:Why American Elections are Flawed, and How to Fix Them by sickbeard on Wednesday October 19, 2016 @08:58AM (#12743310)
If at this point you haven't made up your mind, I'm not sure what else you need bro
Re:Why American Elections are Flawed, and How to Fix Them by ludicast on Wednesday October 19, 2016 @09:11AM (#12743412)
The third debate most likely :). I have them at 1-1 so the winner of this debate will have won twice as many debates as the other. Small sample size I know.

If he is idiotic and has all of his points torn apart, I will have a hard time pulling the lever for him. Intelligence matters.

But if he wins, and then will have won 2 out of 3 debates against a person who spent a month home prepping for them and avoiding the people of this country, that would be very compelling.

It all depends on him making a full heel-face-turn for tonight's rubbermatch.

Re:Why American Elections are Flawed, and How to Fix Them by sickbeard on Wednesday October 19, 2016 @09:13AM (#12743430)
I know it's your choice and everything but can I ask why you don't just look at their policies.. compared to who wins a debate?
Re:Why American Elections are Flawed, and How to Fix Them by ludicast on Wednesday October 19, 2016 @09:32AM (#12743584)
I have, and I am 50/50 split on those :). I sidewith.com had me at 1% point between bernie, hillary and trump.

I

1 - am rabidly pro-choice

2 - think the second amendment is pretty good as is, maybe with a few additional checks.

3 - default pro-cop but think we have too many laws

4 - like the wall but not a fan of massive deportations

5 - would not like to have the migrant influx that europe has, even if the crisis is partly our fault

6 - anti-PC

7 - pro pot-legalization (that's actually more repub this go-round)

8 - believe in climate change

9 - pro-israel

10 - want liberal supreme court justices

11 - think we are taking a very naive approach to the risk of terrorism in order to avoid offending many groups

12 - massively turned on by this https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/donald-j.-trumps...

13 - have to admit if you put them in a box and made them play jeopardy with only geographic/polysci questions, he would get killed.

14 - want less of the typical pro-jesus anti-gay slant the old guard GOP has had (admittedly that's not him but is the Silver Fox at his side)

Re:Why American Elections are Flawed, and How to Fix Them by coldpie on Wednesday October 19, 2016 @09:54AM (#12743747)
Establishment Democrats like Clinton agree with: 1, 2, 3, half of 4, 7, 8, 10, 13

Disagree with: other half of 4, probably 11

Republicans agree with: half of 2, 3, half of 4

Republicans disagree with: 1, other half of 2, 3, other half of 4, 7, 8, 10, 14

Toss-ups, non-issues, and uselessly vague include 5, 6, 9, 11, and 12.

I dunno, it seems pretty clear-cut to me.

Re:Why American Elections are Flawed, and How to Fix Them by ludicast on Wednesday October 19, 2016 @10:15AM (#12743938)
I completely don't agree with your "question redistricting". I'm voting for a person not a party.

For example, 3 is solidly not Hillary. Speakers she had at the DNC, tweets after Dallas shooting, on and on.

Trump is 100% pro-lgbt and has never been a christian, so 14 isn't him.

Trump also is for legalizing medicinal and letting states determine recreational, so 7 is him, not her (have a strong sense from things she's written that she won't legalize).

And the ones you earmarked as toss-ups etc are more him. They also are VERY important to ME, so not the non-issues you paint them as.

There's a few others like this. But I have to go.

Re:Why American Elections are Flawed, and How to Fix Them by jshevek on Wednesday October 19, 2016 @12:17PM (#12745127)
I was unaware of point 12. Trump is the only major party candidate in my lifetime who might actually do something as awesome as #12. I am still leaning towards a third-party candidate, but that does complicate my dislike for Trump. Thank you for sharing that.
Re:Why American Elections are Flawed, and How to Fix Them by skummetmaelk on Wednesday October 19, 2016 @09:47AM (#12743687)
>Intelligence matters.

And you are undecided.

Re:Why American Elections are Flawed, and How to Fix Them by ludicast on Wednesday October 19, 2016 @10:01AM (#12743808)
It's doesn't matter above/beyond all issues, otherwise I'd be writing in Cruz, who I agree with on 3% of the issues.

If Trump had 10 or more extra IQ points, he would be an easier sell to me. I do feel his ridiculous energy levels might compensate for this and then some, not sure though.

Re:Why American Elections are Flawed, and How to Fix Them by angry-hacker on Wednesday October 19, 2016 @09:27AM (#12743551)
Just rig the election paper.

A sane person can't vote for either of them.

But a good citizen's duty is to vote. Write my name on it.

If you vote for Trump you're a bigot. If you vote for Hillary you're a hypocrite.