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Re:UK Government proposes porn-viewing ID by Freak_NL on Wednesday October 19, 2016 @07:55AM (#12742956)
> Frankly, if people are going to be exposed to said imagery at some point, they probably need to be educated about it.

That's what this is all about isn't it? There is lots of stuff on the internet that may hurt a child's development, and I honestly doubt porn is one of the bigger bad influences. Kids are growing up watching popular peers give them beauty and fashion tips or perform dangerous stunts and pranks on extremely popular Youtube channels. Of course all you see is the side they want you to see: the successful prank with hilarious consequences, the perfect look by that pretty girl with the perfect figure.

But left to their own devices your children won't see that girl's bad hair day, or the stunt that backfired and landed one of the kids in hospital. Your kids won't realize that the brand of lipstick the popular beauty vlogger promotes also sends her plenty of free samples in return for the favour, or that that hilarious prank was staged.

It's our responsibility as parents and educators — as adults — to teach kids about this.

Now for porn this always gets tricky, because a lot of people would like to stick to just the basic birds and bees (if even that) and just pretend that sexuality is something you receive with your drivers licence. It doesn't work that way, and believing that blocking a vaunted digital commodity will make it go away is an age-old fallacy. There will always be that one kid who can get the goods, with that one app or website that completely circumvents the blockade.

Meanwhile you get to register for your approved pervert ID if you actually want to comply with the system and watch porn. It boggles my mind how anyone can think that this will benefit society rather than take another step towards a full Orwellian surveillance state.

> I'm all for a better solution, but nobody seems to be proposing one.

You are probably doing all right already. The computer and tablets stay in the living room where you can supervise incidentally until they reach the teenage years. And then the smartphones stay with you after bedtime. For the rest, it is up to you to set a good example, and to explain the world to your kids as they encounter it. That means talking about sex too, and that means explaining what they are looking at when they do stumble upon adult content — not acting embarrassed and making them feel guilty as if they've bitten into some forbidden fruit.

"Oh this is just adult sex, you'll understand better when you are older. Any questions?"

If it really bothers you; install filtering software. Filtering the parts of reality deemed not yet suitable from your children is responsible (just don't pretend it doesn't exist); filtering it from society at large is unbearably sanctimonious.

Re:UK Government proposes porn-viewing ID by zimpenfish on Wednesday October 19, 2016 @09:39AM (#12743638)
> That's what this is all about isn't it? There is lots of stuff on the internet that may hurt a child's development, and I honestly doubt porn is one of the bigger bad influences.

Indeed, I'd list the MRA/PUA/GamerGaters as a much greater risk to young males (directly; young females as a consequence). I'd probably have the alt-right/conspiracy loons above porn as well.

Re:UK Government proposes porn-viewing ID by belorn on Wednesday October 19, 2016 @11:53AM (#12744903)
I would add watching news and using social media to that list, as there plenty of research that show how those destroys a persons ability to assess risk. Each year we get studies that show how people are factually more safer today than last year, and yet perceive the world as less safe.
Re:UK Government proposes porn-viewing ID by rayiner on Wednesday October 19, 2016 @10:17AM (#12743952)
> There is lots of stuff on the internet that may hurt a child's development

[Citation needed.]

Re:UK Government proposes porn-viewing ID by Freak_NL on Wednesday October 19, 2016 @10:34AM (#12744123)
Are you seriously doubting that there are peer reviewed articles that assert that there are things on the internet that can harm a child's development and well-being?

Have a look at Google Scholar for a plethora of papers about cyber-bullying, grooming, self-esteem issues (mental and physical), pro-anorexia blogs, etcetera. You can combine the keywords "internet" and "children" with any of the above to get an extensive list of papers on each topic.

Re:UK Government proposes porn-viewing ID by rayiner on Wednesday October 19, 2016 @10:37AM (#12744147)
And yet, the vast majority of bullying takes place in meat-space, not cyber-space. Most sexual abuse of children happens at the hands of family members. Most self-esteem issues are caused by interactions kids have with other kids, or experiences they have in group activities, sports, etc.

I've never seen a peer-reviewed meta-study that suggests that the Internet is any more dangerous for kids than ordinary life.

Re:UK Government proposes porn-viewing ID by Retric on Wednesday October 19, 2016 @10:49AM (#12744262)
Pick 3 that don't A) bias the result by only looking at negative outcomes and B) don't bias the result by their funding or researches massive bias.

EX: Cyber-bullying has many positive outcomes preparing sheltered children to the kind of people that live in the real world. Just look at what happened to the US hikers captured by Iran for an idea of what a sheltered upbringing results in.

Re:UK Government proposes porn-viewing ID by selimthegrim on Wednesday October 26, 2016 @10:52AM (#12796885)
You mean their being captured or how they reacted to their jailers' attempts to screw with them during their incarceration?
Re:UK Government proposes porn-viewing ID by Torgo on Wednesday October 19, 2016 @01:54PM (#12746028)
>I honestly doubt porn is one of the bigger bad influences.

haha oh wow