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Re:Americans Work 25% More Than Europeans, Study Finds by tirant on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @10:28AM (#12734678)
And you can still do that in Europe, no one is stopping you from working more.

And even better, as you have more free time, you can use it for your own projects.

Re:Americans Work 25% More Than Europeans, Study Finds by creshal on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @10:30AM (#12734702)
> And you can still do that in Europe, no one is stopping you from working more.

Well, unions do. But that's a good thing, it prevents a race to burnout.

Re:Americans Work 25% More Than Europeans, Study Finds by ajmurmann on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @10:39AM (#12734810)
Does that actually apply to every field? I've only worked briefly as a software developer in Germany and not full time, but I never got the impression that unions would realistically stop anyone in that field from working till midnight. If you are working as a factory worker for example that's of course a totally different story. However, I doubt that people in that kind of job regularly decide to put in a few extra hours on some days and are usually on the clock.
Re:Americans Work 25% More Than Europeans, Study Finds by matt4077 on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @11:08AM (#12735168)
If you're in management (defined as having authority to hire/fire IIRC) you're exempt from the law, same if you're self-employed.

For a regular programming job, I believe the the law applies (no more than 10h/day and (8h/weekday average over 6 months). Practically, it only matters if somebody cares about it which only happens systematically on larger companies with a union presence.

But: you're responsible for your employees and they can not waive this right. If you regularly tolerate it, you may run the risk of someone changing his mind after a few years and getting you into trouble, trouble being up to 15000 Euro in penalties and (theoretically) a year in prison if someone was harmed.

Re:Americans Work 25% More Than Europeans, Study Finds by joncrocks on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @12:51PM (#12736336)
In the UK you can opt-out of the EU working time directive.
Re:Americans Work 25% More Than Europeans, Study Finds by Symbiote on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @11:45AM (#12735576)
It's the EU Working Time directive.

You can work longer for yourself, but not for someone else.

http://ec.europa.eu/social/main.jsp?catId=706&langId=en&intP...

Re:Americans Work 25% More Than Europeans, Study Finds by wott on Wednesday October 19, 2016 @07:22AM (#12742801)
But is not applied for everyone. In my country, it doesn't apply to engineers typically: the only limit is 13h/day, 6days/week, so that's a "limit" of 78h/week...
Re:Americans Work 25% More Than Europeans, Study Finds by dragandj on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @01:14PM (#12736610)
In most developed EU countries, especially the happy Denmark, mr. Taxman will make sure that you see little marginal benefit of those longer hours.
Re:Americans Work 25% More Than Europeans, Study Finds by exBarrelSpoiler on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @05:22PM (#12738847)
Well, for those who love work so much, they'd do so regardless of the extra monetary benefits, would they not?
Re:Americans Work 25% More Than Europeans, Study Finds by creshal on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @10:54AM (#12734975)
The overtime regulations vary from union to union, but generally there's an upper limit – you can work 50 hours a week (and get compensated in some form), but not 90.
Re:Americans Work 25% More Than Europeans, Study Finds by _of on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @11:08AM (#12735169)
You can have two jobs if you want to. They won't stop you from that.
Re:Americans Work 25% More Than Europeans, Study Finds by aianus on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @10:50AM (#12734950)
Nobody is stopping you but why would you work 60 hours a week for some boring European company that only pays you EUR60k when you can work the same hours in SV on something interesting and make $150k+.
Re:Americans Work 25% More Than Europeans, Study Finds by drcross on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @10:59AM (#12735061)
Because a house costs you 200k instead of 400k
Re:Americans Work 25% More Than Europeans, Study Finds by dragandj on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @01:16PM (#12736636)
Not in London, or Paris, or any of those places where there is some interesting work.
Re:Americans Work 25% More Than Europeans, Study Finds by aianus on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @11:01AM (#12735092)
So move back to Europe after five years in SV and buy the house in cash.
Re:Americans Work 25% More Than Europeans, Study Finds by rifung on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @11:56AM (#12735691)
Are you implying all European companies are boring? That seems like a strange assumption..