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Re:Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut' by belorn on Monday October 17, 2016 @04:44PM (#12729545)
In a election that has the lowest ever recorded public opinion of the two candidates, my feeling of the election is this. The what ever allowed this situation to happen is proof that it is broken.

If I was to favor the majority opinion, to oppose both Trump and Clinton is to campaign for democracy. If I had to guess what motivities Assange, if Clinton win people won't trust the government and if trump win people will fear the government. It is possible that the later will slightly produce more Snowden's.

Re:Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut' by tptacek on Monday October 17, 2016 @04:45PM (#12729559)
"Public opinion of the candidates" doesn't mean anything. Hillary Clinton crushed Bernie Sanders, beating him by ten times the number of votes Obama beat HRC with in 2008. Similarly, Trump demolished his Republican opponents in the GOP primary. The voters made a clear choice.
Re:Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut' by belorn on Monday October 17, 2016 @05:37PM (#12730015)
Douglas Adams joked about this phenomenon by describing that people will vote for lizards they hate so long it means that the wrong lizard won't win. In a zero-sum game, that result is a Nash equilibrium.

It is still a lizard that get voted into office at the end of the day.

Re:Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut' by tptacek on Monday October 17, 2016 @05:39PM (#12730035)
None of this is responsive to my comment. Hillary Clinton did not win in a squeaker over Sanders; she crushed him. The voters made a clear choice, and it wasn't for "the right kind of lizard". This is the Democratic primary we're talking about, and it wasn't a "lesser of two evils" race there.
Re:Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut' by belorn on Monday October 17, 2016 @06:36PM (#12730443)
If you are asking why Clinton won over sander, while sander has a higher opinion rating, feel free to write your suggestion. Popularity opinion is shared between the left and right while same can't be said when talking about the vote for party candidates.

Some would point to the political events that the dc leaks talked about.

Re:Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut' by kbenson on Monday October 17, 2016 @07:29PM (#12730762)
> If you are asking why Clinton won over sander, while sander has a higher opinion rating, feel free to write your suggestion.

In favorability or approval (whatever that means in the context of a nominee) ratings? They mean different things, and aren't always directly related[1]. I could definitely see how Sanders would be liked more, but people would believe he's less likely to do a good job.

1: http://www.gallup.com/poll/14797/presidential-approval-vs-fa...

Re:Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut' by belorn on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @07:39PM (#12739717)
To suggest an explanation myself, voting where majority vote win has a different result that voting where highest ranking wins. When there is extreme high and extreme low opinion about choices, there is commonly a third option which is rated higher in average.

Say I rated taco, pizza and Italian salad as 10, 8, and 2, and you rated them as 2, 8, and 10, we can easily see that pizza wins even if neither of us has it as our primary pick. pizza in this case has highest opinion rating while the other two choices are quite far behind.

Re:Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut' by kbenson on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @08:20PM (#12739905)
I don't dispute that, but it's not what I was referring to. Some polls ask what people think of the president (favorability ratings), and some are more specifically geared to asking about the job the president is doing (approval ratings). The article I linked to from Gallup points to situations where they do not always correlate as you would expect. For example, Bill Clinton in 1993 and 2000. In 1993 he had 59% favorability and 49% approval,and that just about reverse by 2000 when he had 60% approval, but only 46% favorability. People disliked him after the scandal, but they also conceded he was doing a good job.

So, what I wonder is what questions are actually asked regarding candidates? There isn't any data on them doing the job itself yet (unless they are an incumbent, which none are this cycle), so are they asking about how much they like the person, like the policies, or how confident they are the candidate can perform well? The answer to that question may lead to different likely reasons for the question at hand. Sanders is a likable guy. I like him. I'm also not convinced his policies, as expressed on the campaign trail, are feasible. Conversely, Hillary Clinton isn't very likable. I don't really like her. I do agree with many (but not all) of her policies, but most importantly I think her policies are feasible and have a chance of being implemented if she's elected. I am, in fact, the exact sort of person that might have expressed a favorable opinion for Sanders but voted for Hillary.

Re:Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut' by tripzilch on Saturday October 22, 2016 @12:52PM (#12769409)
> The what ever allowed this situation to happen is proof that it is broken.

Says right in the article, it was Russian hackers aiming to undermine the US democratic system. They saw this beautifully pristine, perfect and fair democratic system and said to themselves "let's undermine the fuck out of this thing".

Surely if it was already undermined to the point of being utterly broken they wouldn't have to bother, right?