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Re:The 2016 Election by Tycho on Monday October 17, 2016 @03:21PM (#12728412)
What? Why is money speech? What makes donation different from voting pragmatically? (eg. "I'll put up with an offensive loudmouth for President if it means we get to avoid destroying another Middle Eastern civilization and potentially starting WW3")
Re:The 2016 Election by sp527 on Monday October 17, 2016 @03:24PM (#12728473)
This was the shocking conclusion of a landmark case, Citizen's United vs FEC, that was heard by the Supreme Court.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_United_v._FEC

Re:The 2016 Election by mmanfrin on Monday October 17, 2016 @03:34PM (#12728651)
A case where it was divided along partisan lines 5 to 4 on the SCOTUS. One of the 5s seat is now vacant and the next president will appoint a replacement.

This is the primary reason I am so frustrated with friends of mine who are content to see Hillary and Trump as 'the same'. One of these two people will tilt the court away from the majority that decided on Citizens United. The other will tilt it further in favor of the side that decided on Citizens United.

Even if HRC was ideologically opposed to my own views I would vote for her since 4 or 8 years of HRC trumps (pardon the pun) the 40 years of SCOTUS seating the next president will set.

Re:The 2016 Election by zeveb on Monday October 17, 2016 @04:48PM (#12729576)
Remember, that case was about the U.S. government trying to prevent a group of people from showing a film critical of a political candidate. Do you really think that isn't speech?
Re:The 2016 Election by zodiac on Wednesday October 19, 2016 @03:57AM (#12741927)
Did you read the article at all? It contains no support for your claim that

> If Thiel donates ... to Trump's campaign, then he effectively is saying what Trump is saying.

Re:The 2016 Election by munificent on Monday October 17, 2016 @03:25PM (#12728494)
> Why is money speech?

It amplifies the speaker's message at a point in time when it may still affect others who hear it.

By the time you vote, in secret, your choice affects no other voters.

Re:The 2016 Election by cschmidt on Monday October 17, 2016 @03:24PM (#12728490)
Re:The 2016 Election by abiox on Monday October 17, 2016 @03:24PM (#12728486)
there are a variety of legal cases that cover this, such as Buckley v. Valeo:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckley_v._Valeo

"The majority, in a per curiam opinion, contended that expenditure limits contravened the First Amendment provision on freedom of speech because spending money, in its view, was the same as written or verbal expression."