Ask HN: To those who became fluent in a second language, what did you do?

Re:Ask HN: To those who became fluent in a second language, ... by rsmsky1 on Sunday October 16, 2016 @10:37AM (#12718770)

Is tinder a real word? I thought it was just a made up word for an app? I can't be expected to explain such words in another language when I can't explain them in my native language. But I think if you said spark instead that would be more reasonable such you need to rub two pieces of wood together and create a spark and then a fire starts.

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Re:Ask HN: To those who became fluent in a second language, ... by Mikeb85 on Sunday October 16, 2016 @11:49AM (#12719133)

Yes tinder is a real word. It's material used to kindle a fire.

Silicon valley has ruined all these words.

Then again, most people don't have to start fires.

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Re:Ask HN: To those who became fluent in a second language, ... by adrianratnapala on Sunday October 16, 2016 @01:43PM (#12719829)

Well the way I learned it, you kindle fires by igniting the kindling. The kindling then ignites tinder (an intermediate stage), which then ignites the real fuel.

But I also often hear the two-step usage where tinder is includes kindling.

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Re:Ask HN: To those who became fluent in a second language, ... by telotortium on Friday October 21, 2016 @03:57PM (#12764067)

To me it's just the opposite. It's why the concept of a tinderbox makes sense (it contains grass or paper or something else easily ignited by a spark or small fire).

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Re:Ask HN: To those who became fluent in a second language, ... by Mikeb85 on Sunday October 16, 2016 @02:15PM (#12720017)

Kindling is actually a verb, as in, the act of 'kindling' a fire, even though it's also used to describe the material used to kindle a fire. Tinder is just the material.

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Re:Ask HN: To those who became fluent in a second language, ... by CDRdude on Sunday October 16, 2016 @03:53PM (#12720593)

There are two definitions, the verb and the noun.

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Re:Ask HN: To those who became fluent in a second language, ... by Mikeb85 on Sunday October 16, 2016 @05:41PM (#12721140)

Now there are. -ing words typically started as verbs. Eating, sleeping, etc...

This is why English is a clusterfuck, and makes no sense compared to most languages. Imagine if we called food 'eatings', that'd be weird, eh?

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Re:Ask HN: To those who became fluent in a second language, ... by adrianratnapala on Monday October 17, 2016 @12:25AM (#12722685)

We can complain about English in all sorts of ways, but the fact that gerunds are distinct from infinitives is not exactly a problem.

http://www.englishpage.com/gerunds/part_1.htm

Perhaps you are complaining that gerunds (which are already nouns) can grow extra meanings over time. But all languages do this kind of stuff.

German has exactly the "problem" you are talking about, only worse. Depending on capitalisation, "Essen/essen" can be the noun "food" or the the verb "to eat", But when used as verb, it is usally used in the sense of the English gerund "eating".

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Re:Ask HN: To those who became fluent in a second language, ... by laichzeit0 on Sunday October 16, 2016 @03:18PM (#12720415)

The icon for Tinder is literally a flame :)

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