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Re:Survey: 69% of Americans Have Less Than $1,000 in Savings by eli on Saturday October 15, 2016 @10:33PM (#12716570)
How did you arrive at the conclusion that most poor people would waste $600 on things they don't really need?
Re:Survey: 69% of Americans Have Less Than $1,000 in Savings by bisby on Saturday October 15, 2016 @10:57PM (#12716641)
If more than the top 30% of people have iphones (or equally expensive phones), then some percentage of people did exactly that.

There is going to be a huge intersection of people with less than 1000$ in savings, but have an iPhone.

Perhaps that's WHY they have so little savings? I knew a family who filed for bankruptcy while having 3 macbooks they used for MS Word and Facebook. Bad spending habits and the need to keep up with the Jones are both issues.

Not all people are poor because they "waste" money, but when you consider that a lot of luxuries are considered "necessities", you have to question things.

Re:Survey: 69% of Americans Have Less Than $1,000 in Savings by pdkl95 on Sunday October 16, 2016 @11:09AM (#12718918)
> ... but when you consider that a lot of luxuries are considered "necessities", you have to question things.

Sometimes "luxuries" are necessities, in less obvious ways. For example, it may be very difficult to get certain types of jobs unless you display the right status symbols[1].

[1] https://tressiemc.com/2013/10/29/the-logic-of-stupid-poor-pe...

Re:Survey: 69% of Americans Have Less Than $1,000 in Savings by teslabox on Sunday October 16, 2016 @01:12PM (#12719641)
That's a nice site... The author has some really good points about for-profit colleges too.

  The $20 Principle
  
  I have written before about how $20 can change a 
  student’s life.

  The $20 is slightly euphemistic but not entirely so.

  We talk a lot about big money in higher education but I 
  know for a fact that it’s small money that can derail 
  one’s educational ambitions.

  I was a student in a doctoral preparation program. I was 
  an older “non-traditional” student. I was independent. I 
  didn’t have children but neither was I still someone’s 
  child. To take advantage of this highly competitive 
  program, I had to submit a $100 reservation fee.

  I didn’t have it.

  I was $24 short.
- https://tressiemc.com/2016/08/30/the-20-principle/
Re:Survey: 69% of Americans Have Less Than $1,000 in Savings by bisby on Sunday October 16, 2016 @07:37PM (#12721702)
I don't disagree with that. But that makes it at best a "semi-necessity".

But that just makes the whole "if you give someone in need 600$, they will spend it on an iphone" MORE valid. If you need status symbols just for the symbol, you might wind up skimping on physical necessities (car repairs, rent, food, etc). Whether or not that is their fault could be up for debate, but it makes the statement itself all the more true.

I only have anecdotal evidence, but people who are poor because they have bad decision making skills would drop 600$ on some "status symbol" trifle without a second thought. People who are poor because of bad luck/circumstances will try their best to save it, or spend it on bills, food, etc.

Re:Survey: 69% of Americans Have Less Than $1,000 in Savings by orangecat on Saturday October 15, 2016 @10:48PM (#12716624)
It's not just poor people. If it really is the case that 70% of Americans have no significant savings, then we're talking about a whole lot of people above the median income, not all of whom have unusual situations requiring them to spend everything they earn.
Re:Survey: 69% of Americans Have Less Than $1,000 in Savings by shados on Sunday October 16, 2016 @11:27AM (#12719016)
I never said most.

Beyond that actually good arguments people have already given you, that's just been my life experience. I was born and raised poor. Not "I'm living paycheck to paycheck in a studio apartment poor", but rather "Wondering when this week I'll have enough money to eat" poor.

And so, the people I grew up with were the same. And while iphones did not exist at the time, you can bet your ass the moment someone had just enough money to buy bread, the rest went on their new electric guitar. And the day they got their foodstamps, they would trade a portion of them so they could get a shiny new TV.

That's just human nature.

Re:Survey: 69% of Americans Have Less Than $1,000 in Savings by fred_is_fred on Saturday October 15, 2016 @10:44PM (#12716608)
Rush Limbaugh would be my guess