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Re:Nuclear Pulse Propulsion – Orion and Beyond (2000) [pdf] by wyager on Friday October 14, 2016 @02:17AM (#12706405)
>This kind of nuclear research is, thankfully, over.

Nuclear pulse propulsion is the only currently viable technology that could be used to make humans an interstellar species. It would also allow us to practically ship up enough materials to build self-sustaining habitats in near space. It is extremely unfortunate that this kind of research is over.

Fun fact: the background radiation levels introduced by nuclear propulsion would actually have a very slight positive health effect on humans according to more accurate radiation hormesis models, rather than the very small negative effects suggested by more naive no threshold models.

Re:Nuclear Pulse Propulsion – Orion and Beyond (2000) [pdf] by mikeash on Friday October 14, 2016 @11:53AM (#12708907)
Radiation hormesis models aren't "more accurate." The long-term effects of small amounts of radiation are simply not well understood. It could be good, it could be bad, it could be neutral.

The far bigger problem for launching Orion from Earth is the electromagnetic pulse frying every satellite above the horizon and a bunch of stuff on the ground.

Re:Nuclear Pulse Propulsion – Orion and Beyond (2000) [pdf] by adrianN on Friday October 14, 2016 @03:21AM (#12706570)
I agree that nuclear pulse propulsion would be awesome to have. However, as far as I know radiation hormesis is a hypothesis that is still disputed.
Re:Nuclear Pulse Propulsion – Orion and Beyond (2000) [pdf] by simonh on Friday October 14, 2016 @06:25AM (#12707149)
On the other hand if we'd gone all-in on nuclear pulse launchers, there would have been no incentive for companies like SpaceX and Blue Origin to develop reusable conventional rockets which will hopefully achieve the same result at lower environmental and perhaps also financial cost.
Re:Nuclear Pulse Propulsion – Orion and Beyond (2000) [pdf] by snrplfth on Friday October 14, 2016 @09:16AM (#12707827)
Even if you had effective nuclear pulse propulsion, you'd still need reusable chemical launchers to get them off the surface of Earth. Nuclear pulse engines are generally not something that you start up inside an atmosphere, for both safety and efficiency reasons.
Re:Nuclear Pulse Propulsion – Orion and Beyond (2000) [pdf] by simonh on Saturday October 15, 2016 @04:14PM (#12715487)
The post I was responding to strongly implied using these for launches.

> ..It would also allow us to practically ship up enough materials to build self-sustaining habitats in near space..

Re:Nuclear Pulse Propulsion – Orion and Beyond (2000) [pdf] by maverick_iceman on Friday October 14, 2016 @12:00PM (#12708967)
How can chemical rockets with ~3km/s exhaust velocity ever achieve the same result? Also if we had gone all in on this concept maybe today SpaceX and BO would be working with a much more promising technology.
Re:Nuclear Pulse Propulsion – Orion and Beyond (2000) [pdf] by simonh on Saturday October 15, 2016 @04:15PM (#12715493)
It depends how reusable nuclear launchers would be. A less efficient launch system in terms of ISP that uses thousands of times cheaper fuel and e.g. is 10 times more reusable might be very competitive.