The Myers-Briggs Personality Test Is Pretty Much Meaningless

Re:The Myers-Briggs Personality Test Is Pretty Much Meaningless by gnaritas on Tuesday October 11, 2016 @02:35PM (#12687254)

> I have no doubt there is some correlation between astrological sign and personality.

There's no evidence of this, so you should have doubts.

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Re:The Myers-Briggs Personality Test Is Pretty Much Meaningless by nonbel on Tuesday October 11, 2016 @02:46PM (#12687370)

Sure there is, I found thousands of papers on it with one simple search: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=season+of+birth

EG: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27310922 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25132151

I don't know much about astrology, but your "sign" is determined by the birthday right? From my understanding, it is basically a way of binning together sets of birthdays. There will probably be various artifacts and noise introduced by the binning process, but I am sure with large enough sample size you will see the correlation.

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Re:The Myers-Briggs Personality Test Is Pretty Much Meaningless by amelius on Tuesday October 11, 2016 @05:24PM (#12688636)

http://www.medicaldaily.com/how-birth-month-influences-perso...

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Re:The Myers-Briggs Personality Test Is Pretty Much Meaningless by gnaritas on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @11:01AM (#12693468)

No, you didn't anything relevant there about personality types; personality disorders are a vastly different subject.

> I don't know much about astrology,

Now we agree.

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Re:The Myers-Briggs Personality Test Is Pretty Much Meaningless by nonbel on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @12:06PM (#12694069)

Well, I tried searching "Myers Briggs season", etc. I didn't find any data on it all. It is one of those topics... too many low quality (unscholarly: not citing references , etc) sources popped up so I won't waste any further time on it.

I assure you with large enough sample size you will find some correlations though.

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Re:The Myers-Briggs Personality Test Is Pretty Much Meaningless by gnaritas on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @04:39PM (#12696265)

> I assure you with large enough sample size you will find some correlations though.

I can correlations the drop in pirates with a rise in global temperature, so what... correlations don't mean a damn thing by themselves, that's just data-mining bias.

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Re:The Myers-Briggs Personality Test Is Pretty Much Meaningless by nonbel on Thursday October 13, 2016 @12:20AM (#12698386)

No, it is not data-mining bias. There really is a correlation. It is real, but realizing that has no usefulness at all.

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Re:The Myers-Briggs Personality Test Is Pretty Much Meaningless by gnaritas on Thursday October 13, 2016 @05:43PM (#12704304)

The correlation with pirates is real too, that's my point, correlations don't mean anything. Only causation is meaningful. The only use of a correlation is as a starting point for finding causation.

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Re:The Myers-Briggs Personality Test Is Pretty Much Meaningless by nonbel on Friday October 14, 2016 @12:53AM (#12706208)

Actually... I think causation may largely be a red herring as well. Our most successful models really do not incorporate it at all. They are in the form of F=ma or PV=nRT. There is no causality there.

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Re:The Myers-Briggs Personality Test Is Pretty Much Meaningless by gnaritas on Friday October 14, 2016 @09:12PM (#12712200)

Models are final solutions; causation is how you end up finding those final solutions: causation is understanding, it's vitally important.

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Re:The Myers-Briggs Personality Test Is Pretty Much Meaningless by Mz on Tuesday October 11, 2016 @08:56PM (#12689697)

I don't know much about astrology,

Then please kindly don't defend it.

but your "sign" is determined by the birthday right?

I have actually studied astrology. Serious astrologers loathe sun sign astrology.

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Re:The Myers-Briggs Personality Test Is Pretty Much Meaningless by nonbel on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @11:56AM (#12693978)

I wasn't defending astrology, I was attacking the pseudoscientific thought process being used to attack astrology.

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