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Re:Leaked Files Reveal Royal Bank of Scotland Harmed British... by jacquesm on Monday October 10, 2016 @08:17AM (#12676602)
In nl we had the 'NMB' (since merged with the postbank to become ING), which was the abbreviation of 'Nederlandse Middenstands Bank' (Dutch Bank for small and medium Businesses).

With the general public they were known as the 'Nederlandse Meeneem Bank' (Dutch takeaway bank) because one of their strategies was to suddenly ask for the whole principal back in one go (something very few businesses can afford, and as your bank they'll know exactly when you can and when you can't) and if you didn't pay up immediately they'd buy up your assets in the bankruptcy proceedings that would immediately follow.

After selling off enough of the assets to satisfy the principal they'd sell off the remainder to friendly parties in order to make an easy profit.

Very nasty practice.

Don't ever put yourself in a position where you are dependent on a single bank, if you need an 'x' amount try to split 'x' across multiple loan providers if you can (it's not always possible, for instance with mortgages).

For a business to have only a single banking relationship is an un-necessary risk.

Re:Leaked Files Reveal Royal Bank of Scotland Harmed British... by retube on Monday October 10, 2016 @08:29AM (#12676658)
I don't understand how it is legal / allowable for a bank just to call in a loan (unless the call option is explicitly documented and paid for by the originator / issuer).

If a loan is being serviced then it shouldn't be possible for a bank just to randomly demand repayment, jack up the interest rate, or otherwise change the terms of the loan. That seems grossly unfair.

If this is the standard in the UK, then I think we need legislation.

Re:Leaked Files Reveal Royal Bank of Scotland Harmed British... by anexprogrammer on Monday October 10, 2016 @08:36AM (#12676682)
It's not uncommon for businesses to have overdrafts in place of or additional to loans for cashflow.

The bank calls in the overdraft because of the bank's bottom line, rather than for anything related to the business itself or change in profitability. Was quite common in both the 08 and 91 recessions.

Re:Leaked Files Reveal Royal Bank of Scotland Harmed British... by amorphid on Monday October 10, 2016 @09:12AM (#12676867)
Depending on a line of credit to fund your business' operations definitely makes you the bank's biyotch. I remember Zappos being encourages/forced to sell for the same reason [1]. Their outcome had a happier ending, but they still had to sell.

[1] http://www.inc.com/magazine/20100601/why-i-sold-zappos.html

Re:Leaked Files Reveal Royal Bank of Scotland Harmed British... by kpil on Monday October 10, 2016 @09:08AM (#12676845)
Or do as the old dictum says;

If you owe your bank a million, you have a problem. If you owe your bank a billion, it has.

(Kenyes?)

The essence is that you have to be big enough and have borrowed enough so that the credit losses hurts the bank if they turn on you... But I doubt it's a winning strategy for a small family business.

Re:Leaked Files Reveal Royal Bank of Scotland Harmed British... by dorfsmay on Monday October 10, 2016 @08:41AM (#12676699)
Even for private banking, you should establish a good working relationship with an actual human at your main bank, but use other banks where it makes sense, and make sure your main bank knows about it. Suddenly they will offer better rates, and be more accommodating. If they don't, that bank is too big for you, look for another one.