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Re:The Problem with Modern Romance Is Too Much Choice by danharaj on Saturday October 08, 2016 @06:57PM (#12669096)
Here's another thing society does that heavily penalizes "unattractive" men: Men are strongly stigmatized for wearing make-up for personal (as opposed to professional) use. It really isn't fair. A good foundation and some concealer goes a long way.

I don't think attractiveness matters past initiating the first date in a cold relationship. Who knows, is it because I've gotten older? Getting to know someone makes their face so dynamic and expressive. Every human face is pretty once you get to know it that way. Perhaps that is why it's easier to date people we're already friends with: we already know how pretty and interesting they are, what more could one want?

Re:The Problem with Modern Romance Is Too Much Choice by projektir on Saturday October 08, 2016 @07:32PM (#12669222)
Attractiveness overall seems a more valued trait in women, though, to a rather catastrophic degree. I think men should be allowed to use makeup, and I think the small amounts that would help others wouldn't notice, but, overall, I don't think the fact that women are supposed to constantly worry about their makeup or their hair or their fashion so disproportionately is an advantage. I got the impression that men don't wear makeup mostly because it doesn't really matter. That's a lot of time better spent doing almost literally anything else.
Re:The Problem with Modern Romance Is Too Much Choice by sotojuan on Saturday October 08, 2016 @07:18PM (#12669180)
I'm guessing this isn't so much the case in other cultures as I had a few male Korean friends who wore light make up.
Re:The Problem with Modern Romance Is Too Much Choice by danharaj on Saturday October 08, 2016 @07:29PM (#12669217)
Oh, of course. It even changes with time within the same culture. In the United States at least, away from major cities with a strong culture of liberal individuality, there are extreme social pressures culminating in even violence that police the conduct of both men and women when it comes to self-expression through makeup and fashion.
Re:The Problem with Modern Romance Is Too Much Choice by GrinningFool on Saturday October 08, 2016 @10:34PM (#12669644)
On the other hand I tend to prefer women who use little to no makeup . It's not necessarily a one-way discrimination, though I agree the reaction is more of an automatic response people in this culture will hold towards men who choose to do so.
Re:The Problem with Modern Romance Is Too Much Choice by huherto on Saturday October 08, 2016 @09:01PM (#12669398)
High hills is another example.