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Re:U.S. government accuses Russia of hacking campaign to inf... by int_19h on Friday October 07, 2016 @10:37PM (#12665387)
Russia can do whatever it wants in its jurisdiction.

But it cannot be allowed to dictate the bilateral terms between other countries. If Ukraine or Poland wants to be in NATO, it's not up to Russia to say "no". Especially given the histories of those countries, and Russia's role therein.

And that's basically what that "OMG NATO is surrounding Russia" thing boils down to.

Re:U.S. government accuses Russia of hacking campaign to inf... by icebraining on Saturday October 08, 2016 @05:35AM (#12666294)
"it's not up to Russia"

It is if they have the power to stop it. The whole "moral justification" part is for plebes like us. If powers feel threatened by the movements of other powers in neighboring countries, they will act[1]. How they spin it to the public is secondary.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_Missile_Crisis#Quarantin...

Re:U.S. government accuses Russia of hacking campaign to inf... by int_19h on Saturday October 08, 2016 @10:54PM (#12669695)
Which is why it is important to everyone else to stand together make sure that Russia doesn't have the power to stop it.
Re:U.S. government accuses Russia of hacking campaign to inf... by qaq on Saturday October 08, 2016 @09:51AM (#12666927)
Sure but it didn't get them very far