Jack Dorsey Is Losing Control of Twitter

Re:Jack Dorsey Is Losing Control of Twitter by fairpx on Thursday October 06, 2016 @01:24PM (#12654265)

This is a great comment. For most companies, grinding along and sometimes taking a hit, firing people, slow things down and then pick it up again and grow, is the norm. If every company that stops getting massive growth would stop, we wouldn't have factories mass producing our day to day products, the post office wouldn't be delivering us goods anymore, etc. twitter is a mature organisation. There are jobs. There is cashflow. We should stop letting journalists make a big deal of companies that don't have infinite growth and applaud the entrepreneurs that build the monster.

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Re:Jack Dorsey Is Losing Control of Twitter by forgingahead on Thursday October 06, 2016 @01:54PM (#12654529)

There is another angle that we often don't consider: who the media writes for. In general, the financial press writes for investors (this is the same for the tech media), and so their alarm bells and dire predictions are for investors, not necessarily about underlying fundamentals or facts of a business for everyone else.

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Re:Jack Dorsey Is Losing Control of Twitter by westurner on Thursday October 06, 2016 @07:25PM (#12656960)

- Are these jounalists working for media companies that are competing for time?

- If they are shareholders, they don't seem to be declaring their conflicts of interest.

- For Twitter to respond would require that Twitter be taking editorial positions regarding the activities of competing media conglomerates. ("You're down, you should all just cash out now" [while you have far more daily active customers and revenue per user than a number of TV channels combined].

- Are there competing international interests and biases? Is the market for noiseless citizen media saturated? How much time is there, really?

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Re:Jack Dorsey Is Losing Control of Twitter by joemi on Thursday October 06, 2016 @08:02PM (#12657155)

I'm not sure if I'm understanding you correctly, but I think you're considering Twitter to be a media company, like a newspaper company? If so, I don't think that comparison is accurate so there'd be no conflict of interest really.

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Re:Jack Dorsey Is Losing Control of Twitter by briandear on Thursday October 06, 2016 @08:40PM (#12657325)

The conflict of interest is if the journalists owned shares of Twitter.

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Re:Jack Dorsey Is Losing Control of Twitter by westurner on Friday October 07, 2016 @06:55PM (#12664573)

The conflict of interest is that one media company is publishing negative articles about another media company amidst acquisition talks.

What is their interest here? How do they intend to affect the perceived value of Twitter? Are there sources cited? Data? Figures?

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Re:Jack Dorsey Is Losing Control of Twitter by joemi on Friday October 07, 2016 @07:24PM (#12664682)

I'm still a bit confused. Are you implying that Bloomberg and Twitter are in competition? I'm not so sure they are, really, in any sense.

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Re:Jack Dorsey Is Losing Control of Twitter by westurner on Saturday October 15, 2016 @07:08PM (#12716036)

Bloomberg is a private corporation which sells ads and exercises editorial discretion in publishing market-moving information and/or editorials.

Twitter is a public corporation which hosts Tweets, sells ads, and selects trending Twitter Moments.

Both companies are media services. Both companies compete for ad revenue. Both companies compete for readers' time.

(Medium allows journalists to publish information and/or editorials for free (or, now, for subscription revenue from membership programs)).

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Re:Jack Dorsey Is Losing Control of Twitter by vtlynch on Thursday October 06, 2016 @02:10PM (#12654665)

>We should stop letting journalists make a big deal of companies that don't have infinite growth

Im not sure if thats the main audience pushing the narrative of growth. There is an industry that created the "growth hacker" position, and I dont think it was journalism.

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Re:Jack Dorsey Is Losing Control of Twitter by mastazi on Thursday October 06, 2016 @07:37PM (#12657013)

> There is an industry that created the "growth hacker" position, and I dont think it was journalism

True but it seems that most journalists were keen to embrace that credo. At the end of the day, "hockey-stick growth" has become the predominant narrative; does it matter much where it came from initially?

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Re:Jack Dorsey Is Losing Control of Twitter by mc32 on Thursday October 06, 2016 @04:23PM (#12655778)

But then the media could at least question those assertions along with the narrative.

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