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Re:Why Are Politicians So Obsessed with Manufacturing? by joe_the_user on Wednesday October 05, 2016 @07:57PM (#12649029)
"I don't think it's so much a cultural thing as the high intellectual capabilities required for high paying knowledge jobs. Coding, for example, is just too hard for a huge segment of the population, regardless of how much training they get."

Maybe but it doesn't matter that much. If some breakthrough in education made it easy for 60% of the population to become good quality coders, it would lower the wages of existing programmers, somewhat increase the pool of working programmers but not give that 60% good jobs.

The type of coding done at Uber, for example, is specifically valuable because it replaces the lower paid labor of other people. We can't all have jobs automating each other out of jobs, now can we?

Re:Why Are Politicians So Obsessed with Manufacturing? by euyyn on Wednesday October 05, 2016 @08:38PM (#12649210)
I work on developer tools, with the explicit long-term goal to automate developers out of their job, and we need all hands we can get :)
Re:Why Are Politicians So Obsessed with Manufacturing? by joe_the_user on Thursday October 06, 2016 @12:08AM (#12650178)
1) Developer tools don't really eliminate jobs, not any time soon, not in way a robot can entirely eliminate a line welder position or a self-driving car could eliminate a taxi driver position.

2) Sure, you need all the hands you can get in the current market. Still, you wouldn't hire a ten thousand new developers tomorrow even if ten thousand people as competent as your most competent lead developers showed up on your doorstep tomorrow.

Re:Why Are Politicians So Obsessed with Manufacturing? by euyyn on Thursday October 06, 2016 @02:12AM (#12650565)
The current market is precisely that there's so much low-hanging fruit in automating a developer job that we aren't going to entirely eliminate developer jobs any time soon; and hence why any new pair of hands helps.

The tech companies in SV told the Obama administration that if they gave a million more H1Bs to engineers, they'd hire them all. And plenty of them put resources on improving developer tools.