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Re:Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s i... by buckbova on Tuesday October 04, 2016 @02:04PM (#12637745)
Got a moto g4 for under $250. Works perfectly for me. Good specs, stock android more or less, unlocked.

http://www.motorola.com/us/products/moto-g

Re:Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s i... by throwaway41597 on Tuesday October 04, 2016 @04:28PM (#12639178)
Isn't its bootloader locked? Last time I checked you needed to go to Motorola's website to download a key specific to your phone so you could unlock it, but it voided the warranty.
Re:Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s i... by agumonkey on Tuesday October 04, 2016 @04:34PM (#12639232)
1 year goes fast, I'm still using 1st gen Moto G, and unlocked it.
Re:Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s i... by Crisco on Tuesday October 04, 2016 @10:22PM (#12641171)
My entire family uses different Moto G versions. I have the G4, one of my sisters has a G3, and my parents and my other sister have G1s. They just seem to work and are very good first-time smartphones for my parents. It has been several years since they got them, and I don't even have to provide technical support. Honestly, I see very little reason to unlock the phone.
Re:Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s i... by agumonkey on Tuesday October 04, 2016 @11:24PM (#12641335)
It wasn't mandatory mostly because Motorola was commited to provide the latest Android which ensures you'll never be out of a new feature. But G1 aren't supported anymore, if today's Google conf apps aren't Lollipop friendly you're stuck with unlocking.
Re:Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s i... by jstapels on Tuesday October 04, 2016 @02:07PM (#12637767)
But it's owned by Lenovo... a Chinese company.
Re:Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s i... by radiorental on Tuesday October 04, 2016 @04:11PM (#12639012)
Chinese - put something on the phone

Americans - tap the network backbone.

What's the difference?

Re:Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s i... by tedunangst on Tuesday October 04, 2016 @05:57PM (#12639870)
End to end encryption works over insecure networks, but not with insecure endpoints.
Re:Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s i... by radiorental on Tuesday October 04, 2016 @08:35PM (#12640797)
I'm sure the NSA has something to say about that, at least with consumer grade encryption.
Re:Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s i... by tedunangst on Tuesday October 04, 2016 @09:33PM (#12641023)
That's why I always use military grade encryption.
Re:Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s i... by radiorental on Wednesday October 05, 2016 @05:05AM (#12642479)
> military grade

I see what you did there (o;