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Re:Ask HN: How do you keep motivated if nobody supports you? by giancarlostoro on Monday October 03, 2016 @08:30PM (#12632497)
I am 26 and I gotta say I agree. I only just got my first real programming job. It took me knowing the right person, and they spoke to someone who got me hired before I knew it. So take your dads job, meet new people, network. People are fascinated by technology, and software development touches many many fields from law enforcement (forensics), to medical, all the way to farming, and many more. Your dad could even use a bit of sprucing up for his business maybe?

You could change his business to be modernized and sneak in some software development into it at some point? :) Just be wise about it, don't just break his company for yours haha, you might even learn a lot for your own business from and he could fund you once he sees how genuine your work is. Worse case you go back to programming with new business knowledge. Who knows you might even meet business minded people your age who could benefit your startups? Take a leap and if you don't like it after sometime, just plan to leave or reasses.

Re:Ask HN: How do you keep motivated if nobody supports you? by thesmallestcat on Monday October 03, 2016 @08:44PM (#12632550)
You shouldn't need to network to get a job programming or to advance your career. It doesn't hurt, but it's unnecessary. That's at least half of the allure of this line of work.
Re:Ask HN: How do you keep motivated if nobody supports you? by jnbiche on Monday October 03, 2016 @09:46PM (#12632777)
> You shouldn't need to network to get a job programming or to advance your career.

I think some of you forget that the rest of the world isn't New York/Austin/Bay Area. For most of us, just because we're competent programmers and have a pulse doesn't mean we'll get snatched up off the street. Programming is a very competitive job situation in many mid-sized cities across the USA and Europe, and networking is unfortunately quite necessary to both get a job and to advance your career. By far, the most successful programmers I know around here and those who network the best (I'm unfortunately not very interested in networking, and have suffered accordingly).

Also, once you hit around 40, lots of people who once would have loved to have you don't seem to want you anymore.

Programming was a great career when I was 20 and self-taught. Twenty years later, it's not looking so hot, even though I've very much kept up with the latest stacks and languages. Still, I love writing code, so what am I going to do, go into management?

Re:Ask HN: How do you keep motivated if nobody supports you? by justinlardinois on Tuesday October 04, 2016 @04:02AM (#12633985)
> I think some of you forget that the rest of the world isn't New York/Austin/Bay Area.

Hell, even if you do live in one of those places you're screwing yourself to shun networking.

The tech industry isn't special in this regard. Being a good programmer is important, but if your only approach to career growth is reading job boards and sending cold resumes, you're going to hit a ceiling.

Re:Ask HN: How do you keep motivated if nobody supports you? by thesmallestcat on Monday October 03, 2016 @09:49PM (#12632786)
Right, but OP is in the Bay Area. But to your point, if you are willing to relocate (which, if you're trying to start a career at 26, you should be..) then geography doesn't matter that much. An email address, a phone line and recognizable skills will get you a ticket to SF/Seattle/Boston for an on-site interview in a heartbeat.
Re:Ask HN: How do you keep motivated if nobody supports you? by jnbiche on Monday October 03, 2016 @09:56PM (#12632814)
I thought OP was in Mexico?

Anyway, many of us have family situations that don't allow us to easily uproot and move across the country, as much as we might like to do so sometimes.

Re:Ask HN: How do you keep motivated if nobody supports you? by thesmallestcat on Monday October 03, 2016 @10:11PM (#12632864)
Yea, I don't know, the author's LinkedIn says Bay Area but education appears to be in Mexico.
Re:Ask HN: How do you keep motivated if nobody supports you? by dabockster on Monday October 03, 2016 @09:00PM (#12632618)
You're right. It shouldn't be necessary to network that much. But it can be necessary if you live in an area that doesn't favor the kind of job market necessary for tech opportunities.
Re:Ask HN: How do you keep motivated if nobody supports you? by giancarlostoro on Sunday October 09, 2016 @07:40PM (#12674178)
Or if your "resume" wont get through HR, which isn't always discerning of talent.