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Re:Why's that company so big? I could do that in a weekend by dagw on Monday October 03, 2016 @08:59AM (#12627085)
And even that is only a small part of what makes Uber, Uber. If you want to actually compete with Uber, then once you've gotten all those minor details worked out, you're going to have to tackle the real problem which is dealing with 100's of different regulatory frameworks for offering taxi services, being a taxi driver (or a not-taxi driver as the case may be), hiring of private contractors and two dozen or so other entirely non-technical things neither you nor I have considered.
Re:Why's that company so big? I could do that in a weekend by mamon on Monday October 03, 2016 @10:23AM (#12627603)
>> dealing with 100's of different regulatory frameworks

Isn't ignoring regulations the most often quoted reason for Uber's success?

Re:Why's that company so big? I could do that in a weekend by hockley on Monday October 03, 2016 @10:44AM (#12627731)
Having an effective strategy to skirt regulations probably requires just as much knowledge of the regs as a company who complies with them.
Re:Why's that company so big? I could do that in a weekend by Frondo on Monday October 03, 2016 @12:27PM (#12628824)
I don't think that's really true in this case. In the few cities I know any details for, the Uber answer was, "we'll just do it until the city sues us". That doesn't really take any special knowledge, just preparedness with the lawyers.
Re:Why's that company so big? I could do that in a weekend by dragonwriter on Monday October 03, 2016 @07:14PM (#12632155)
> Having an effective strategy to skirt regulations probably requires just as much knowledge of the regs as a company who complies with them.

Not really. The "effective strategy to skirt regulations" seems to be "when someone makes an issue out of it, we'll burn investor money on PR and lobbying against the regulations, and on paying any penalties that get assessed for violations".

For that, you don't need much advance study of the regulations, just a deep supply of investor funds.

Re:Why's that company so big? I could do that in a weekend by scythe on Monday October 03, 2016 @01:59PM (#12629745)
They don't "ignore" regulations. They violate regulations. They do so strategically or they would have been shut down long ago.

For example, if public opinion weren't on their side, perhaps due to, say, Uber rides being as dangerous as they're sometimes claimed to be rather than as safe as statistics show them to be, some of those "little" city lawsuits could have blown up much worse.

Re:Why's that company so big? I could do that in a weekend by SilasX on Monday October 03, 2016 @04:55PM (#12631236)
Unfairly, IMHO. It certainly helped, but they did so much, and better, than the other apps and they made legit, value-improving changes to the ride-hailing process: actually acting on feedback, dynamically setting prices, coordinating a movement away from tipping, applying modern IT.

Remember, their core product was not violating regulations: it was filling empty spots for legit black limo drivers, and was more expensive than taxis but still competitive because of the quality of service.

Re:Why's that company so big? I could do that in a weekend by BurningFrog on Monday October 03, 2016 @01:28PM (#12629441)
Ignoring regulations is easy.

Getting regulations to ignore you is the hard part.

Re:Why's that company so big? I could do that in a weekend by Clubber on Monday October 03, 2016 @08:54PM (#12632597)
That and the economic recession where lots of people who had vehicles were now trying to make ends meet. Also, they paid their drivers better initially until they build up their driver network. Of course leveraging the media helped and a symphony of other things all pushed them to where they are now.
Re:Why's that company so big? I could do that in a weekend by nilved on Monday October 03, 2016 @09:35AM (#12627316)
That's what the problem is. You can invent something in a weekend; the red tape takes longer. I think that still counts as "built in a weekend."
Re:Why's that company so big? I could do that in a weekend by pixl97 on Monday October 03, 2016 @10:28AM (#12627642)
Your comment makes no sense. Invent is a pretty meaningless word in this case. Invent doesn't mean 'make a product capable in working in the real world where it has to follow laws, physical limitations, and deal with stupid people'.

If you invent an app in a few hours, then get fined out of existence your app sucks.

If you invent an app in a few hours, then it crashes under high load, your app sucks.

If you invent an app in a few hours and your code sucks and you can't adapt it later, your app sucks.

Re:Why's that company so big? I could do that in a weekend by nilved on Monday October 03, 2016 @10:49AM (#12627775)
> If you invent an app in a few hours, then it crashes under high load, your app sucks.

Yes

> If you invent an app in a few hours, then get fined out of existence your app sucks.

No

Re:Why's that company so big? I could do that in a weekend by pixl97 on Monday October 03, 2016 @11:33AM (#12628213)
>> If you invent an app in a few hours, then get fined out of existence your app sucks.

>No

Sorry, but back here in reality apps must comply to regulations. It's your job as a voter to make sure your regulations comply with reality.

Re:Why's that company so big? I could do that in a weekend by nilved on Monday October 03, 2016 @01:08PM (#12629251)
For one, not everyone cares about the rules. For two, rules rarely apply to all people all the time. For three, this is external to the apps and you can hardly judge the app for what arbitrary regulations their location has at that time.
Re:Why's that company so big? I could do that in a weekend by kelnos on Tuesday October 04, 2016 @12:35AM (#12633366)
Caring or not caring about the rules is irrelevant if those rules make it impossible for you to operate.

Uber has famously skirted rules and has gotten away with it largely because they've been able to throw VC money at PR, lobbying, and paying fines. Unless you happen to be similarly lucky funding-wise, your first round or two of fines for breaking rules can easily shut you down permanently.

Maybe it's a bit hyperbolic to say that this would mean "your app sucks", but the end result is that you built something that no one can use and you can't make money of of. That sucks.

Re:Why's that company so big? I could do that in a weekend by dpark on Monday October 03, 2016 @11:30AM (#12628175)
Apps that stop working because the company folds definitely suck.
Re:Why's that company so big? I could do that in a weekend by dbbk on Tuesday October 04, 2016 @05:38AM (#12634318)
Something I find really interesting is that Uber drivers in the US are ordinary people. In the UK, they are straight up taxi drivers. It's the same brand for two totally different implementations of the idea.