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Re:Inside the Chicago Police Department’s secret budget by protomyth on Thursday September 29, 2016 @02:11PM (#12607495)
> sex offender registry

If we as a society believe the person is still a danger, then we shouldn't let them out, ever. If that's not the case, then anything past their incarceration / parole is blatantly unfair.

Re:Inside the Chicago Police Department’s secret budget by slouch on Thursday September 29, 2016 @02:19PM (#12607563)
...especially because urinating in public can land you on the list for life.
Re:Inside the Chicago Police Department’s secret budget by protomyth on Thursday September 29, 2016 @02:31PM (#12607678)
Re:Inside the Chicago Police Department’s secret budget by ihsw on Thursday September 29, 2016 @03:08PM (#12607952)
Taking a piss in woods managed by Fish and Wildlife Services will land on on the sex offender registry, if caught. It's absurd.
Re:Inside the Chicago Police Department’s secret budget by koolba on Thursday September 29, 2016 @03:46PM (#12608225)
> Taking a piss in woods managed by Fish and Wildlife Services will land on on the sex offender registry, if caught. It's absurd.

That's seriously absurd. Are the any instances of this being enforced in a public park? I've read of many cases of getting added to the registry from public urination, but they're all in cities[1].

[1]: And usually it's not even in "public". It'd be behind a dumpster or the end of an alley. Yes it's not something we as a society want, but who in their right mind puts that person in the same category as a pedophile.

Re:Inside the Chicago Police Department’s secret budget by eth0up on Thursday September 29, 2016 @08:15PM (#12609780)
1. http://www.menshealth.com/guy-wisdom/you-might-be-sex-offend... mentions a few frightening accounts of arrests (one behind a garbage bin resulting in deportation), but not in parks 2. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/31/opinion/sunday/punishment-... - mentions the matter
Re:Inside the Chicago Police Department’s secret budget by RonanTheGrey on Thursday September 29, 2016 @03:27PM (#12608085)
Holy crap I didn't realize it was that easy. That's incredibly scary, because presence on that list basically destroys your life, your family's life, and your ability to ever build a life - all because it is public and used for every background check under the sun instead of obviously protected professions like teaching, etc.
Re:Inside the Chicago Police Department’s secret budget by ihsw on Thursday September 29, 2016 @03:37PM (#12608162)
It's considered exposing yourself. Yes very scary.
Re:Inside the Chicago Police Department’s secret budget by AnimalMuppet on Thursday September 29, 2016 @03:23PM (#12608050)
> If we as a society believe the person is still a danger, then we shouldn't let them out, ever.

We should recognize that we cannot always judge that correctly. So you either let people out who might still be a danger, or you keep people locked up who might not be a danger. (And, in fact, you do both - all you can do is adjust the proportions.)

But people scream really loudly if you keep people locked up who arguably are no longer a danger...

Re:Inside the Chicago Police Department’s secret budget by protomyth on Thursday September 29, 2016 @04:36PM (#12608571)
Of course we aren't going to get it right 100% of the time[1], but either they are rehabilitated & "served their debt to society" or they aren't. The whole sex offender list is a half-ass way to cover the bases. We need to get over ourselves and pick: they need to be incarcerated[2] or they can rejoin society. The list is incarceration on the prisoner's dime and puts them at the fringe forever.

Lumping all of these into one pot is another foolish idea with the list.

1) heck, we don't get guilty / not guilty right which is why I'm against the death penalty

2) in some form

Re:Inside the Chicago Police Department’s secret budget by duaneb on Thursday September 29, 2016 @03:33PM (#12608124)
> If we as a society believe the person is still a danger, then we shouldn't let them out, ever.

This is not how justice works. If you want to create some other form of government, that's fine, just don't call prison justice.

Re:Inside the Chicago Police Department’s secret budget by boundring on Thursday September 29, 2016 @03:25PM (#12608062)
Civil commitment actually results in this.

Repeat sex offenders are effectively jailed for life.

Re:Inside the Chicago Police Department’s secret budget by adekok on Thursday September 29, 2016 @02:46PM (#12607801)
> If we as a society believe the person is still a danger, then we shouldn't let them out, ever.

Well, no.

After multiple DUIs, someone can have their license taken away permanently. The justice system has a long history of restricting peoples behavior who are (a) out of jail, but (b) still a danger to themselves or others.

Re:Inside the Chicago Police Department’s secret budget by hossbeast on Thursday September 29, 2016 @03:09PM (#12607967)
Long history doesn't make it right
Re:Inside the Chicago Police Department’s secret budget by LyndsySimon on Thursday September 29, 2016 @06:19PM (#12609281)
According to the courts, it makes it legal.
Re:Inside the Chicago Police Department’s secret budget by protomyth on Thursday September 29, 2016 @02:54PM (#12607871)
I am talking specifically about sex offenders.
Re:Inside the Chicago Police Department’s secret budget by rhizome on Thursday September 29, 2016 @04:35PM (#12608559)
Belief is the standard for justice in a theocracy.