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Re:The Next Industrial Revolution Could Put Millions Out of ... by jklinger410 on Thursday September 29, 2016 @10:34AM (#12605513)
So for autonomous trucks how will human truckers keep their jobs? For the auto manufacture industry, how many less humans does Tesla employ to produce a vehicle vs in 1996? For the service industry...how many jobs are being replaced as McDonalds rolls out kiosks?

You are uninformed if you believe these jobs are staying. There is no way, mark my words, that our economy doesn't experience a net negative in jobs during this next revolution.

It's not all bad though, it could push us towards UBI, maybe a supply based economy. Otherwise we're basically saying jesus take the wheel.

A guy can dream.

Re:The Next Industrial Revolution Could Put Millions Out of ... by reverend_gonzo on Thursday September 29, 2016 @10:50AM (#12605698)
Jobs will definitely disappear, and some people will definitely suffer, but new jobs and new industries will rise up. Those who can adapt to changes will do just fine, and the rest, well, they will get left behind.

The world is changing, faster than it has in the past. No one know exactly what will happen, but there's a whole new generation of people who have no idea what it used to be like, and they will do their best to survive.

The economy, and life, will find a way.

Re:The Next Industrial Revolution Could Put Millions Out of ... by jklinger410 on Thursday September 29, 2016 @10:56AM (#12605739)
>but new jobs and new industries will rise up.

At some point you have to admit that there is a limit to the potential jobs that a society can support. You can hope these hypothetical new jobs get created, but I don't know how you can prepare for them.

I sincerely believe there is no way to invent enough jobs, by convenience or necessity, to replace the amount of jobs that will be destroyed by automation.

Re:The Next Industrial Revolution Could Put Millions Out of ... by ekianjo on Thursday September 29, 2016 @11:00AM (#12605775)
> At some point you have to admit that there is a limit to the potential jobs that a society can support

How about the people Google and Facebook and Twitter employ ? That's a huge workforce and these jobs were not predicted by anyone 15 years back.

And I'm not even talking about the network effect, i.e. businesses and freelancers and individuals who were able to build their businesses on top of the services offered by such companies.

And that's just a single industry. Look at how the solar panel industry is growing, or the smartphone industry (it did not exist 10 years ago), and look at all these companies living off it making apps and services around those.

Seriously, opportunities arise by themselves.

Re:The Next Industrial Revolution Could Put Millions Out of ... by vkou on Thursday September 29, 2016 @11:22AM (#12605961)
Google and Facebook have a combined market cap of 900 billion, and employ 70,000 people between the two of them. Their profit last year was ~20 billion.

Ford alone employs 200,000 people, with a market cap of... 48 billion. And a profit of ~7 billion. GM also employs ~200,000 people. With a market cap of... 50 billion. And a profit of ~7 billion.

Tech employs very few people, compared to the amount of money it brings in.

Re:The Next Industrial Revolution Could Put Millions Out of ... by ekianjo on Friday September 30, 2016 @09:59AM (#12612443)
You are not counting the jobs they enabled.
Re:The Next Industrial Revolution Could Put Millions Out of ... by ekianjo on Thursday September 29, 2016 @10:56AM (#12605744)
> You are uninformed if you believe these jobs are staying. There is no way, mark my words, that our economy doesn't experience a net negative in jobs during this next revolution.

People were saying the exact same thing when sophisticated machines were introduced in automotive industry manufacturing. Sure, some people could not convert and lost jobs, but everyone else moved on to be productive in other areas.

This prophecy of Doom is happening every 10 years or so.

Re:The Next Industrial Revolution Could Put Millions Out of ... by jklinger410 on Thursday September 29, 2016 @11:01AM (#12605782)
>Sure, some people could not convert and lost jobs, but everyone else moved on to be productive in other areas.

Tell this to the midwest, where the lie of our government's unemployment reporting is most obvious. It's honestly kind of offensive that you said that as I am from Michigan.

And as I have said in other comments (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12605690), there are factors like the stagnant minimum wage and self-interest at play that have kept jobs in these companies that could be replaced currently let alone in 10 years.

I am not here to convince you to change your mind about potential job loss. Understanding the technology, our current economy, and the political atmosphere around jobs should be enough to convince you of this truth.

As others have said, maybe there are imaginary jobs that will be invented to make up for these losses. I'm sure the banks will do their best to make sure that happens.

Re:The Next Industrial Revolution Could Put Millions Out of ... by vkou on Thursday September 29, 2016 @11:29AM (#12606014)
So, when is the entire Rust Belt going to pack up, and move to be productive in other areas? Where are they going to go? San Francisco?

Is there some demand for the general skills of former lathe operators, that we've all missed?

Should millions of people start building websites that make money by advertising other websites that make money by advertising other websites?