Re:Making Humans a Multiplanetary Species [video]
by mzw_mzw on Wednesday September 28, 2016 @02:46PM
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The point is that there have been plenty of purely governmental dystopias -- far more than there have been even pseudo-corporate ones like the ones you describe -- but we don't have people fretting about how we shouldn't have the government run Mars colonization due to that.
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Re:Making Humans a Multiplanetary Species [video]
by lmm on Thursday September 29, 2016 @04:54AM
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Dystopian colonies run by national governments yes. Dystopian colonies run by democracies of which the colonists were citizens no.
Re:Making Humans a Multiplanetary Species [video]
by mzw_mzw on Thursday September 29, 2016 @01:51PM
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Weren't Algerians citizens of France? Anyway, if we're no-true-Scotsmaning here, there also aren't any examples of dystopian colonies run by "corporations" that weren't joined at the hip with a national government.
Re:Making Humans a Multiplanetary Species [video]
by lmm on Friday September 30, 2016 @03:58AM
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> Weren't Algerians citizens of France?
I'm not ever so familiar with that history, but a quick look at the wiki suggests very much not; some of the elites were (and, at certain periods, the non-muslim population), but never the regular population, and indeed this was a major point of contention leading up to the war.
> Anyway, if we're no-true-Scotsmaning here, there also aren't any examples of dystopian colonies run by "corporations" that weren't joined at the hip with a national government.
Musk is explicitly talking about a "public-private partnership". I think any project on the scale of Mars colonization is necessarily going to be intimately entangled with one or more governments.